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Old 06-12-2021, 02:55 PM   #1
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coupe is in very good condition any idea what they sell for he wants 38k.
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Old 06-12-2021, 03:01 PM   #2
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Lotsa variables . Lots to look for .
Good luck and sorry I couldnt help with a price .
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You would need to be more specific on how many windows does it have. The five window coupe is a nice car, but the three window coupes seem to command higher prices. Is this an original car or one that has been modified?
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Post pictures, plenty of qualified eyes here on the barn to advise you!! What are “YOU” looking for? 100% 36 Ford Correct? A
Nice presentable driver?? What’s your expectations??
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it is a 5 window stock.
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Waaaayyy to much in today’s market.
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Old 06-12-2021, 04:22 PM   #7
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do not know how to post pictures.
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do not know how to post pictures.

Not really that difficult to learn. There is also a test page here where you can practice. Do a search for previous posts on how to post pictures here. There have been many. We need to see pictures to help you.
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Lenmissy,
When you click on “post reply”. Look in the top part of the dash board/tool bar for the black paper clip, click that paper clip and the upload box will appear, there are about 6 “browse” lines to up load pictures!!! Be careful of file size as large files will not upload.

If you want to email them to me I will post them for you but I can’t do it till Monday. [email protected]
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Waaaayyy to much in today’s market.
Yeah I kinda agree,,, 38K would be more mint three window coupe territory would it not? Haven't seriously priced Flathead Fords for a while.
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:04 PM   #11
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Len,
You'd be in dangerous territory at $28,000. It probably took all of $38,000 to build the car but the brutal fact is....that's not where the market is.
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My reasoning for buying a car:
The actual cost is the difference between what you buy it for and what you sell it for. Let's say you bought the coupe for $30000 and drove it for 5 years.Then you get tired of it and sell it for $30000. It didn't really cost you anything. It was free.
If the prices go up in 5 years and you sell it for $40000, you just made ten grand. Garage logic.
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Old 06-13-2021, 12:07 PM   #14
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coupe is in very good condition any idea what they sell for he wants 38k.
Post photos with plenty of detailed info. for best feedback to your question.

1936 3 windows are far more desirable.

Look here to get a feel for the "asking" market. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...&o=relevance&c[node]=7

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My reasoning for buying a car:
The actual cost is the difference between what you buy it for and what you sell it for. Let's say you bought the coupe for $30000 and drove it for 5 years.Then you get tired of it and sell it for $30000. It didn't really cost you anything. It was free.
If the prices go up in 5 years and you sell it for $40000, you just made ten grand. Garage logic.
I agree that IF a guy buys a car and breaks even when selling, the cost of ownership was quite reasonable. It was not "free" as it costs monies to store and maintain, insure, etc. Still, the fun factor most certainly offsets those expenses.

On the other hand, if you think these cars will appreciate in the next five years, I have some really good deals available to you.

Not as much fun as owning an old car, but a guy can invest $30k and if done properly will have considerably more than $40k in five years.
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I see a lot of 5 windows at the 20-25k range. Three windows in nice shape are unobtanium............ think 55-65k.
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A old saying is a car is only worth as much as someone will pay. I'm surprised all the responses to an arbitrary post with no info. You can buy a nice original 36 for 38K. So the next question is what are you going to do to it!
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Waaaayyy to much in today’s market.
Agreed. The funnel in the carb is also not a good sign. Means the car needs gas poured down the carb to start.
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Wrong engine just to start with for originality.
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If I was selling a car and wanted it to give a good impression, I'd make sure the air cleaner was installed. (And not one of them itty-bitty aftermarket chrome ones either.)
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I was watching Scotty Kilmer the other night on YouTube, the mechanic dude that has advice on all sorts of cars and mechanical issues. I don't fully agree with every single thing he says, but fun to listen to him.

Anyway, he spoke of a guy he knew that just bought a used Tesla with 15K miles on it. The original owner paid $125,000 for the car and three years later sold it for $40,000 to the guy Scotty knows.

$85,000 depreciation

So I guess a few thousand more than book on that '36 Ford Coupe,,, hey if it is in really good shape and you like the car, what the heck!

But for $38K I would be looking at finding a three window coupe and pony up a little more cash instead!
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For $38K I don't want droopy door handles. If you want a five window look for a 40 Ford.
They have "the classic look" and are always in demand.
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What Kube says!!

That is how I always look at these things. Buy something for 20K. Use it and enjoy it for a few years and sell it for 16K. So it cost you 4K plus the maintenance, insurance, etc. for those years. Did you have 4K worth of FUN???

I say hell yeah! (most of the time anyway.... )

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What Kube says!!

That is how I always look at these things. Buy something for 20K. Use it and enjoy it for a few years and sell it for 16K. So it cost you 4K plus the maintenance, insurance, etc. for those years. Did you have 4K worth of FUN???

I say hell yeah! (most of the time anyway.... )

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Now I like the way Heard thinks! That is way mor in line with reality! But what he says about the fun factor is right on the money! I am old enough that I dont want this next project to be my last project and I dont want to store these like a fine wine! Somewhere in between I want to enjoy them have others get enjoyment from them and make them just a little better than when I found them!

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Definitely the wrong motor, it's the later flathead. It also has a rumble seat and I consider that wasted space. They are a PIA if you are going to use the car for touring and need to load luggage, portable chairs, etc. It also comes down to good sheet metal with nice original floor pans and no patch panels. At $38,000 I would pass on it.

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https://newyork.craigslist.org/brx/c...336318956.html

Different animal, but this may help you to negotiate or gauge the value of the car you are looking at.
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The more you look at the pictures of the maroon '36 more faults can be noted. The cream wheels, hub caps and white side walls really look dumb. No accessories, radio, heater, and pin-stripping, decrease the value. It would seem that someone that went to all of the trouble to redo the car would have used a correct 221 LB engine. Maybe they did not know the difference.. The Collector Car Price Guide would indicate the car is a #3 $18,400. The '36 Club Cabr listed on craigslist NY is right on the # 3 CCPG $27,000 listing.
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Personally I'd go with the Craig's List one. JMO I like patina...............

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Pretty car but looks like you could do much better, continue the search process. My 36 is pretty darn nice after paint and interior re-do and I would be shocked if it brought $30k. The market for these cars is getting smaller as the younger generation does not care about them like us old farts! lol...
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Go for the cabriolet. A rarer car, has a back seat and a real trunk. At $30,000 it might also be negotiable. It's also closer to being an original restoration.
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Go for the cabriolet. A rarer car, has a back seat and a real trunk. At $30,000 it might also be negotiable. It's also closer to being an original restoration.
I really love that cabriolet. Looks like a fun car.
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What Kube says!!

That is how I always look at these things. Buy something for 20K. Use it and enjoy it for a few years and sell it for 16K. So it cost you 4K plus the maintenance, insurance, etc. for those years. Did you have 4K worth of FUN???

I say hell yeah! (most of the time anyway.... )

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I've had my wife for 55 years now. She totalled my '57 Dodge so I figured I'd have to marry her to get my moneys worth.

How much do you figure she's worth at todays prices?
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How much do you figure she's worth at todays prices?
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The convertible prolley isn't going to be worth as much as a coupe,
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After all these comments, I'd say lenmissy has a pretty good general idea of how to move on this!

Good replies.

Do you guys ever go by the NAPA antique and classic car guide? I haven't looked at that in several years but the prices always seemed pretty high.

One last thing. I learned late last nite of a friend who had just died of liver cancer. He was 55. I visited with him about four weeks ago, I hadn't seen him all winter. I did think he had gotten pretty thin, but he never said anything to me about his ailment. And he never complained. Others that knew him said he kept real quiet about it they didn't know either. He went out like a man I honor him for that.

My point being in this little story, if you want it you'd better get it because time is running out for all of us. That day will come. As Jim Morrison of The Doors always said 'No one gets out of this alive'.
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That is how I always look at these things. Buy something for 20K. Use it and enjoy it for a few years and sell it for 16K. So it cost you 4K plus the maintenance, insurance, etc. for those years. Did you have 4K worth of FUN???

I say hell yeah! (most of the time anyway.... )

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It's like if you are a golf guy. If you quit playing golf you can't get your green fees back. But you had fun! Most times you even up or more if you fix it a bit and buy well.


Looks like a nice car. I would do a compression check on the engine. Well I would want it running for that price. But looks like a solid car. Have fun!

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That is a really nice car that the owner may very well have 38,000 into but like others said, the market is not there. You have some bartering points. If you could be sure of the quality of the mechanical restoration it might be worth a few dollars more. I'm helping a friend fix his Model A that he thought he got a good deal on. I just replaced the cam gear. Found the front motor mount broke and half ass fixed. The pan was leaking so replaced that gasket. It still made a noise and now find the distributor seized up. He is physically not able to work on his car and depends on others. If you add up what someone would charge to do what I have done the deal is not quite as good.
The saying, buy the best car you can afford, is quite good advice.
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Reading the craigslist ad for the '36 Cabr in NY, it appears that the car has changed hands three times in less that two years. I wonder why?
Could be the first guy bought it at auction paying a huge price for it, then found the car was not what he expected, he then had to dump it at a loss.. The story continues with each owner..
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Reading the craigslist ad for the '36 Cabr in NY, it appears that the car has changed hands three times in less that two years. I wonder why?
Could be the first guy bought it at auction paying a huge price for it, then found the car was not what he expected, he then had to dump it at a loss.. The story continues with each owner..
Or, conversely, the owner passed and someone got a great deal, kept it for a bit and now time to flip.

If you beat the bushes long enough, you'd be surprised what flushes out.
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Ha Ha the owner here..I did pour gas in the carb for the first start up when i got it out to take pics..It had sat about 6 months..So silly to do that and take a picture..No it is not a 36 engine and am told by a reliable Ford man it isa 38 engine with inserts which is probably a better engine and yes it is still for sale
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Ha Ha owner here and yes for the first start after 7 months sitting i did pour a little gas in the carb rather than wear out the starter but not to smart of me to take a picture with that funnel in there..The engine i am told is a 38 with inserts which is probably a better engine..By the way the car is s still for sale here in canada..Harry
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Also 35.000 not 38 000.So 28 us about 35 anadian..Funny when one advertises something for sale how many people will pick away at it ..
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Again misinformatiom.The original poster doesn't disclose his location. He then says 38K so we in USA presume its in USD.
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Also 35.000 not 38 000.So 28 us about 35 anadian..Funny when one advertises something for sale how many people will pick away at it ..
The original poster came on here to ask for opinions on the car before buying it. All we had to go by was pictures and descriptions.

No one was bashing your car, just helping someone out who was looking to spend some money.
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Not sure what you are after, but this is on Hemmings Auction. Looks pretty good. Remember it’s “buyer beware”.
I purchased a 39 Standard Coupe out of North Carolina a few months back. With our border being closed I could not go see it. According to the seller, dealer, it was a good driver. Well after I got it, I had to rebuild the trans, do all the brakes and it need front end work. Be cautious.
Mostly Original 1940 Ford DeLuxe Coupe<BR>https://www.hemmings.com/auction/194...ons_newsletter
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Don't buy anything that you cannot look at yourself. You also cannot always trust an inspector that you hire to do the job for you. Some may know old Fords and some may not.
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Out of storage they all need the funnel. I like an inline elec pump for that. Doesn't it cost like 20 grand for body and paint today? The guy is taking a bath at 38k.
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Just make sure you can go physically see the car. Too many scammers out there with lots of excuses as to why you can't see the car. "Work lots of hours", "over seas", "Selling for someone else".
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$38 or $35k, inflation has caught up with early Fords. I think it comes with a stack of 2x4x8 lumber too. Good thing this car doesn't need a "chip".
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How about some pictures of what the underside of the car looks like?
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Ha Ha owner here and yes for the first start after 7 months sitting i did pour a little gas in the carb rather than wear out the starter but not to smart of me to take a picture with that funnel in there..The engine i am told is a 38 with inserts which is probably a better engine..By the way the car is s still for sale here in canada..Harry

Yes it could be a better engine for a 36 if that is what you are looking for. Appreciate your understanding of what you are selling. I still like the car at 20-25k usd. Guess If i was buying it I would want to kick the tires. Looks very nice.
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Out of storage they all need the funnel. I like an inline elec pump for that. Doesn't it cost like 20 grand for body and paint today? The guy is taking a bath at 38k.

Always best to start with the best car you can buy with the money you have. Yep 20k for paint and metal would be very liberal thinking. You can get a handle on that if you can do the work yourself of course. But you'll go through 5k in materials and paint without really doing anything fixing metal.


If that is what you are looking for ultimately. Shiny paint jobs look good in the driveway but doesn't matter if you can't drive it. You can easly drop the same amount restoring the mechanics over time. But I'd guess we don't do this stuff to get rich. Not like they are making any new 36's either. This car has been for sale for a month. Thought it would have been sold by now. Maybe price.

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After over 50 posts the OP has been overwhelmed and now AWOL
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After over 50 posts the OP has been overwhelmed and now AWOL
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In all fairness to the OP, he is north of Winnipeg, Manitoba, and probably
very close to the wildfires up there. I just seen on the news/weather, that
there are about 130 wildfires in Manitoba right now.
Your smoke is drifting down my way in MN., and making the sky very dark.

Hope everyone up there is carefull, and stays safe.



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Out of storage they all need the funnel. I like an inline elec pump for that. Doesn't it cost like 20 grand for body and paint today? The guy is taking a bath at 38k.
20 grand? Yes, in the year 1998.
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Lanny we are getting the haze here and can actually smell it. Crazy sh!z.



Mike what you are really telling me is I will have to paint my 36 myself. Yikes! I know a quality paint jobs are labor intensive and time consuming. But.... I'd have to see the car to make that assumption that's how it was done. I'd guess you can get a great paint job for less then 20k in 98.

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