What's the deal with these brake shoes?

[nosoup4u]

Are they any good? Why are they so cheap? Is soft good?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-For...fb85%7Ciid%3A1

[J Franklin]

He is wanting to sell. His feedback is 100% positive, go ahead and get them if you need some. Woven lining is what was used during model A production.

[updraught]

"Is soft good?"

Do you want to stop?

I use soft brake linings/caliper pads and soft tyres on everything I own and drive.
I like to stop regardless of how often these things have to be replaced. Soft will wear out quickly.

An very old mechanic in my youth told me about Model A brakes "the trick is to use soft linings".

[Bob-A]

"Soft, molded, bonded brakes shoes......." I believe that is what it says in the eBay auction site. I looked at them and they are "molded, bonded...."
But, they sure ain't soft wire, rivet attached, brake linings to me....


Bob-A

[J Franklin]

They look like they will do the job. Good price.

[Hoogah]

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The eBay advert says "We supply the largest ford aftermarket retailer in the antique car hobby...".

Which one is that? Are these in their catalogue?

[1930artdeco]

The woven lining that they use now is hard and they use it to brake drive shafts on ships now. For iron drums I use the bonded linings.

Mike

[160B]

Originally Posted by nosoup4u

Are they any good? Why are they so cheap? Is soft good?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-For...fb85%7Ciid%3A1

They are GOOD!!!

I put this on my 1931 160B just in time for the trip to Reno for the MAFCA convention. I am very satisfied!!!

You want soft molded or woven for mechanical brakes, steel or cast iron drums. There are two other club members who have installed them and they are also satisfied customers.

Use hard lining with hydraulic brakes.

[160B]

At home and want to add some more info.

I found these brake shoes on eBay and exchanged messages with the seller, he owns a large brake clutch business in NY, and these brake shoes have all new steel shoes, with new soft bonded lining. They are made in china.

He provides the shoes to at least two of the Model A Ford parts vendors that I know of.

In the 40's the brake shops had tooling to bend the shoe to fit a turned drum. Once the shoe is bent the distance between the anchor pins changes and the shoe will no longer be centered. I do not know of any brake relining shop that checks the centerline to centerline distance on a Model A brake shoe.

See the attached Raybestos Brake Service Guide

The advantage of new steel shoes is that the centerline to centerline distance is correct thus the brake shoe will be more accurately centered.

[160B]

FWIW

You can tell the difference between a soft bonded lining and a hard bonded ling by pressing your thumb nail into the lining:

If the lining is soft you will feel a slight indentation.

If the lining is hard you will NOT feel a slight indentation.