1934 V8 Grille Emblem

[JimG]

My car doesn't have the V8 grille emblem. I see you can buy reproductions at C&G, Macs, Drake. None of them seem to show a picture of the back side on how they mount. Do they have studs and a crosspiece with nuts or a crosspiece with screws that go into the emblem? Is the V8 part a separate piece? I searched this forum and found someone who had pictures of an original and the V8 part was a separate piece.


Is it possible to mount these to the grille without removing the grille from the car? The space between the grille bars is only 1/2 in - can't get a finger between them. Has anyone ever mounted them after the fact to a finished car and how did you do it?


If you have to remove the grille, I think I'll just live without it.

[deuce lover]

Yes its in 2 pieces.The V8 portion has 2 studs and there is a flat piece and 2 nuts to secure it to the grille bars.Nearly impossible to install it with the grille in place.

[tubman]

Originally Posted by deuce lover

Yes its in 2 pieces and there is a flat piece and 2 screws to secure it to the grille bars.Nearly impossible to install it with the grille in place.

Also, nearly impossible to steal without breaking.

[koates]

Yes it is possible to fit these V8 badges to the 34 ford grille without removing the grille. I have done it several times. For some unexplanable reason many badges have found their way to the center of the grilles over the years. Should be mounted approx. one inch down from the top of the grille. I have fairly small auto electrician fingers and balance each nut on my two little pinkies to get them started on the threads. Don't forget the spring washers. I have a modified open end 3/8 spanner (woops, wrench) with a tight "S" bend on the end to get between the bars to nip the nut up. Large hands and fingers wont get the job done. Regards, Kevin.

[Newc]

Hi all; Some fellows use a small rubber "O" rings as a 'Lock" washers cause they will not stress the stud mounting on the badge. Stories of the stud 'popping' off when tightened. Newc

[bobH]

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34 badge, I think

[bill3337]

That's a '33 actually.

[whizzernick]

I agree with you. mounted too low .. reminds me of 50's guy with his pants down real low . NOT LIKE NOW BELOW THE BUT.

[mercman from oz]

This is the Badge fore the 1934 Ford V8. Notice that it is flatter than the 33 Badge. The 33 Badge seems to be three dimensional.

[mercman from oz]

1933 Ford V8 Badge.

[Randy in ca]

There's some pictures in this old thread of a disassembled 1934 grille emblem. Note that besides missing the clamping plate the two studs appear to be shorter than they need to be - possibly twisted off (which is common) where the nuts meet the clamping plate. I believe that I have a loose one, I will check it for stud length.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126220

[FL&WVMIKE]

This is an original 1934 grill with factory, non-reproduction emblems... and is what the emblems look like for this model year. And yes, it fastens as was said.

[Randy in ca]

Here's some pictures of a stock 1934 Grille Emblem showing the plate that the studs go through as well as the length of the studs. If looking at used ones for sale definitely worthwhile verifying the stud lengths as it would seem to be very exacting as a little too short won't work. Any suggestions as to what might be the best way to remove a stud from the main part of the emblem for replacement?

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[cmbrucew]

This type nut might be used.


Bruce

[JimG]

Closing the loop on this, I was able to mount the V8 grille emblem to my car yesterday. I thought I would explain what I do in case anyone else ever wanted to do it.


I used a Bob Drake emblem that I get from Macs that they had on sale. It had 8-32 threaded studs but the outside of the nuts seemed to be a strange size. The best thing I could find to fit the nuts was a 9mm wrench. Maybe it is actually 11/32" but I don't have anything to even try that size out. The 9mm seemed a little large but worked. I made my own backing plate that was a little larger than the Drake one and put two 1/16" holes in the corner where I attached some thin fishing line. I held the two parts of the emblem together and to the grille with painters tape, putting in the middle of the grille between the support bars so the grill bears would bend the most there without permanently deflecting. I then fed the backing plate fishing line thru the grill and could position it from the outside and use a finger to feed the backing plate onto the studs. I put some gorilla glue on my index finger tips and used it to stick some thin neoprene washers on the studs. I used a small stick to spread the bars enough to get my knuckle through and put the washers on the studs. I then stuck the nuts on the end of my finger and got them started on the studs. Then I slid the assembly up on the grille to the proper position and used a 9 mm articulating ratcheting wrench to tighten the nuts on the studs, using a piece of stiff aluminum wire with a right angle bend to position the ratchet head on the nuts. Then pulled the fishing line out of the backing plate. Here's the wrench I used and the installed emblem. I probably should have put some tape on the grille bars to protect them from the wrench as it is a painted grille, as I got a small scrape on one while tightening.


Koates was right - it can be done.