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Old 12-04-2019, 06:59 PM   #21
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I do not know if this would be called a "restoration" or not...

My very early February 1929 Tudor Sedan, was sometime in the past "unfortunatly" repainted, but Thank God, with the original color paint that was on the car to begin with. This must of been at least 40 years ago or so. Restored? I do not know in that respect. Still has original interior.

However when I got it in 2011, the chassis and drive train were just dirt, hard grease, you name it. So what I did was remove the body and dissasembled the chassis and just cleaned it up. Tried to keep the original paint as much as I could on all the parts, replaced the rotten frame welting, fender welting, gaskets, replaced some worn out bearings here and there...the only "restored" item on it I guess is the cast iron sediment bowl.

Put it back together as was. No renickling of any parts.

So...did I restore it?

Beats me. But it still retains most of its originality. Just made it a little more "safer" to drive.

OH yea, new cotter keys where needed.

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Old 12-04-2019, 07:15 PM   #22
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You make a good point. I bet we all have a slightly different opinion on what restored means. For me . . . I would have done the same as you . . . no matter what we call it. :-)
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:52 AM   #23
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Steve, I would say that you did a 're-furbishment', not a restoration. If I had something as nice as the OP this is the route I would go.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:20 AM   #24
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Fortunately for me, the previous owner(s) had taken that approach. It's a solid driver now. The only issue that stills needs attention is the steering. It has a lot of play.
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:32 AM   #25
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Fortunately for me, the previous owner(s) had taken that approach. It's a solid driver now. The only issue that stills needs attention is the steering. It has a lot of play.
Is it a 7-tooth or 2-tooth column?

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Old 12-05-2019, 11:13 AM   #26
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I'm afraid that's over my pay grade. :-) I'm on the opposite end of the Model A knowledge spectrum from most everyone here. What should I look for? I'm headed out there in a bit to look the engine over for that diamond stamp that was mentioned.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:28 AM   #27
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The short version is that the 7-tooth steering column is a single long piece, whereas the 2-tooth column is two pieces bolted together. So if you see a bolt on the top of the column, near the bottom end, just above an oil filler plug or grease fitting, it's 2-tooth. No bolt, 7-tooth. Here are the 2-tooth and 7-tooth assembly diagrams.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:44 AM   #28
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I see the grease fitting. A couple inches up from there the the column housing narrows and becomes round. No bolt or nut visible. So I reckon it's a 7 tooth
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Old 12-05-2019, 12:11 PM   #29
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Probably your best bet is to run a forum search on "7-tooth rebuild" or "7-tooth steering play" and then spend a few hours reading through the many many many previous discussions on this exact topic.
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Old 12-05-2019, 12:30 PM   #30
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I will take the advice to read up on the steering issue.

I confirmed that the engine has a diamond block. A head casting near the water pump says "D 35"
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:20 PM   #31
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With regard to post #21

This is how I break it down. When I maintain an aircraft, I keep it in a safe flyable condition. It may not look real pretty but it will be safe to fly in.

To maintain a car a person tries to maintain it as it currently is but in safe operable condition.

To restore a car, a person tries to return it to "like new" condition.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:35 PM   #32
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Here's a pic of the back seat area. The floor had an old piece of linoleum laid over it. The metal under it is good.

I'm curious what the "N" means? Its behind the back seat.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:39 PM   #33
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pics in previous post now

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Old 12-06-2019, 03:08 PM   #34
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It looks pretty good for 90 years of wear & tear. I have no idea what the N stenciled there on the bustle is.

I know there was a time when Briggs started charging more for steel than Ford wanted to pay so the response was Ford started shipping them steel made at the Rouge.
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