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Old 07-29-2020, 09:42 AM   #21
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Old 07-29-2020, 09:50 AM   #22
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Old 07-29-2020, 09:55 AM   #23
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Can you give us a ball park what he's asking? This is an unique truck.

Paint is street rod, running gear is a mix of hot rod and street rod. It's interesting mix of the two. No longer a stocker, but that's not a necessarily a bad thing either.

If you plan on keeping it and you like what's done to it, then all is good and go for it.

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Old 07-29-2020, 09:57 AM   #24
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I could post some pics of my 41 and you'd probably start seeing that one in a better light. It looks really nice from this side of my monitor.
To some the modifications will detract from the value. It looks to be in good condition and I imagine it's not cheap.

Lift the mats and have a look at the cab floor.
Look at the frame where it starts to kick up.
If you go and see it be sure to let us know how it goes.

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Old 07-29-2020, 10:03 AM   #25
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I agree that the 3.00 rear is a bad choice for that combo. If the price is right and everything else is good, it isn't a huge deal to swap out the entire rear end for another. Go see how it drives. If it has a 4" crank and the right cam it could be OK.
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Old 07-29-2020, 10:25 AM   #26
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I agree that the 3.00 rear is a bad choice for that combo. If the price is right and everything else is good, it isn't a huge deal to swap out the entire rear end for another. Go see how it drives. If it has a 4" crank and the right cam it could be OK.



No need "to swap out the entire rear end"! Just drop out the center section and change the ring and pinion to something like 3.89 or 4.11. With the overdrive trans, the final ratio would be about 2.8 to 1. With the current 3.00 gears, the final ratio is about 2.1 to 1. Way too tall!
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Old 07-29-2020, 10:27 AM   #27
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That's good advise. The owner says he has almost all of his receipts, which I'll be sure to rummage through when I go look at it.

A few more details:
  1. H&H Flatheads long block
  2. Painted 2 years ago
  3. Rebuilt original gauges
  4. Rebuilt T5
  5. Rebuilt Ford 8" rear with 3.00 gears
  6. Parellel leafs in the rear
  7. Radial WW's
  8. New chrome
  9. New glass

He says he's tired of working on it and wants to move so he needs to sell. It needs the headliner installed (how hard of a job is that?) and it needs kick panels.

Parallel leafs in the rear are from the factory. I believe '41 was the first year.
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Old 07-29-2020, 10:45 AM   #28
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^^Wrong info above. 41s still had the transverse springs.

The truck has been mildly street rodded.
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Old 07-29-2020, 10:45 AM   #29
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Little stuff like no flat or lock washers bother me(Rear bumper brackets and rear shock mounts).
Cobwebs under the car.
Also look at the body seam under the car in one of the last photos(the one showing the exhaust going thru the x member),is that rust or dirt on the fresh paint?
Did he ever drive it or did he build it to sell
As stated previously,it also depends on the price
I would not buy it without looking at it.
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Old 07-29-2020, 10:54 AM   #30
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^^Wrong info above. 41s still had the transverse springs.

The truck has been mildly street rodded.
More than mildly IMHO. Paint is a big cost and that color choice is 100% street rod. 9" with a T-5, totally street rod.

Again, not that its a bad thing, but I wouldn't call this truck a hot rod.

It may be apples to oranges, but the terms mean two different things. This truck appears to be a nice, street rodded truck.
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Old 07-29-2020, 11:24 AM   #31
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I like everything I see but the color (red wheels included).

OK, the top hoses should be fixed too.
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Old 07-29-2020, 12:12 PM   #32
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Let me see if I can answer some of the questions posted and I think aussiesteve had a pretty good list, so here goes

1. Price - $30,000 (asking)

2. Little stuff like no flat or lock washers bother me(Rear bumper brackets and rear shock mounts) - Agreed, which made me ask for a lot more pictures. I do see some issues that I can easily correct, but it also has my spidey-senses tingling so I plan to pay CLOSE attention to details when I go look at it.

3. Cobwebs under the car - Owner has only driven it 200-300 miles total while working on it over the past 7 years. He says he's tired of working on it and wants to move and needs the cash. He's moved from MD to CO and back during those 7 years and he's tired of transporting an unfinished project.

4. Also look at the body seam under the car in one of the last photos(the one showing the exhaust going thru the x member),is that rust or dirt on the fresh paint? Yes it is rust. The cab was soda blasted and then sprayed with a rust inhibitor, but the rust is coming from between two panels where they missed. I very good friend of mine has fixed spots like this before for me and it can be fixed easily. The owner claims all repairs were all metal repairs and no bondo cover up jobs. I've see bondo cover up jobs before, so I know what to look for when I go look at the truck.

5. Did he ever drive it or did he build it to sell - It was built to drive, but he's tired of working on it and wants it gone. I know how he feels. I did the same thing with a 1968 Mustang I sold about a month ago.

6. As stated previously,it also depends on the price - I think my top number on the truck is $27,500. I REALLY like the truck and what he's done with it. It's got good bones, but needs a few finishing touches. However, there's just too much left to finish for it to be worth $30,000 (IMO).

7. Rear is geared too high - Agreed, although I was thinking more like a 3.73's or 3.55's to keep the cruising speed on the interstate somewhere in the low 2K RPM's. Ring and pinions are cheap for a Ford 8" and there's all kinds of options for gearing. I would probably keep the 3.00 in it for now and just use gears 1-4 unless on the interstate.
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Old 07-29-2020, 12:40 PM   #33
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^^Wrong info above. 41s still had the transverse springs.

The truck has been mildly street rodded.

Thanks for the correction, Mart! My belated research shows '42 to be the first year for the open driveline, parallel spring setup, not '41.
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Old 07-29-2020, 12:59 PM   #34
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Does he have the paperwork/receipt from H&H. For being driven only 200-300 miles in the past 7 years, the motor looks like it has some miles on it.
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Old 07-29-2020, 01:51 PM   #35
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Does he have the paperwork/receipt from H&H. For being driven only 200-300 miles in the past 7 years, the motor looks like it has some miles on it.
I agree with the motor looking like it has some miles on it. He says he has the receipt for the motor from H&H and that he bought it, so it's not second hand. With all of the moving around he's done I'm wondering if maybe the motor was stored in a less than desirable place in it's history. He says it starts right up and runs great. That's something a test drive will prove/disprove.
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Old 07-29-2020, 01:55 PM   #36
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It looks to me like it has an 'early' style intake manifold on this 'late' engine. If so, I'd be concerned about how the engine will breathe like 19Fordy asks above, although it appears that oil can be added thru the blocked-off fuel pump stand. Ask the owner if the engine has been equipped with a PCV system of any sort. It may help you to review an article I just posted a few days ago explaining this situation with an 8BA in great detail. Click the link below, and good luck...nice looking truck, overall! DD


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Old 07-29-2020, 02:07 PM   #37
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Come on guys It's only $30000 . It's a nice looking truck - Try building yourself one for only $30000 - 36fordguy
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Old 07-29-2020, 02:18 PM   #38
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I think you are on the right track. Neat truck, looks good, sounds like it runs well, but needs to be inspected in person to verify or confirm what the seller is telling.

'40/'41 trucks are timeless and hopefully you plan to keep it for a long time.

Please report back with what you find.
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:02 PM   #39
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Come on guys It's only $30000 . It's a nice looking truck - Try building yourself one for only $30000 - 36fordguy
Without question it is a nice looking truck. While I agree with you that one would be hard pressed to build it for $30K, I don't share your thoughts on it only being $30K and what's the big deal.

That's a chunk of change and I think the OP is asking for thoughts so he can formulate questions in order to be as informed as possible as to what to look for.

If I was spending $30K on any vehicle, sure as heck I'd go over it with a fine tooth comb.
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:25 PM   #40
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My '48 F-1 had a manifold like that when I bought it. The engine leaked oil all over and had fumes inside cab! I changed to the correct manifold and problem solved. Before and after pictures.
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