Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-02-2023, 06:48 PM   #1
theriddler56
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Haines City, FL
Posts: 108
Send a message via Yahoo to theriddler56
Default Oil filter

I’m assembling my 3-3/8” x 4” 8ba. I’ve modified the oil passages for a “ full flow” oil filter, however I don’t really want the look of a remote oil filter hanging on the engine or firewall. I want something more like it came from the factory. What options or opinions are out there? Does anyone have an opinion about using a stock oil filter and housing possibly by welding in new bungs for either -8 or -10 size lines?

Thanks,

Stephen
theriddler56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2023, 07:15 PM   #2
Tony, NY
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Capital of Corruption , NY
Posts: 811
Default Re: Oil filter

I mounted my remote on the frame out of sight. You can see a short length of hose going down.
Tony, NY is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 01-02-2023, 07:20 PM   #3
ford38v8
Senior Member
 
ford38v8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 6,633
Default Re: Oil filter

There is a misconception about a so-called full flow filter. The rear main being fed directly from the pump makes this system more like a 95% full flow. Compare this to an original bypass system where 99.9% is filtered in about 15 minutes of running time. Compare also that a full flow must have a pressure relief, dumping directly without filter action at all. In addition to this, a full flow passes larger particles than a bypass.
Now, you want to install a full flow that looks like a bypass. Go figure.
__________________
Alan
ford38v8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2023, 08:20 PM   #4
Ronnieroadster
Senior Member
 
Ronnieroadster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: East Coast in CT
Posts: 1,524
Default Re: Oil filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by ford38v8 View Post
There is a misconception about a so-called full flow filter. The rear main being fed directly from the pump makes this system more like a 95% full flow. Compare this to an original bypass system where 99.9% is filtered in about 15 minutes of running time. Compare also that a full flow must have a pressure relief, dumping directly without filter action at all. In addition to this, a full flow passes larger particles than a bypass.
Now, you want to install a full flow that looks like a bypass. Go figure.


Having tried both the stock bypass and the stated 95 percent system. There's one thing I find with the 95 system the oil always looks clean. Never noticed that with the stock bypass I find the oil always looks dirty.

Now to help answer the original posters question about the possibility of using the stock filter and housing. The issue you may find using the original filter assembly is the amount of flow and pressure developed in the converted oil system will be difficult to seal at the lid location of the stock filter housing.

However some have used the stock housing to hide a spin on type filter inside the housing. Overall the ones I have seen converted look pretty good. Hopefully one the Barn members with a converted stock housing will post pictures.
Ronnieroadster
__________________
I use the F word a lot no not that word these words Flathead , Focus and Finish.
"Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club using a Ford Flathead block"
Owner , Builder, Driver of the First Ford Flathead bodied roadster to run 200 MPH Record July 13, 2018 LTA timing association 200.921 in one and a half miles burning gasoline.
First ever gas burning Ford flathead powered roadster to run 200 MPH at Bonneville Salt Flats setting the record August 7th 2021 at 205.744 MPH
Ronnieroadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2023, 08:52 PM   #5
deuce_roadster
Senior Member
 
deuce_roadster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Shelton, WA
Posts: 3,799
Default Re: Oil filter

Like Tony,NY all of my spin on oil filters are out of sight under the car.
deuce_roadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2023, 08:53 PM   #6
theriddler56
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Haines City, FL
Posts: 108
Send a message via Yahoo to theriddler56
Default Re: Oil filter

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
I’m well aware that not 100% of the oil is filtered. That’s why I put the “full flow” in quotes. I’m also aware that the rear main gets unfiltered oil, however the majority of the engine gets filtered oil. A by-pass system the filtered oil is dumped right back into the pan, thus “cleaning” a percentage of the oil all the crud stills goes to the bearings, etc. so I would think 95% is better than basically none at all. I agree that there would be no bypass valve in the filter, which the only time that is ever opened is if the filter is plugged or to restricted. The reason I wanted to try to use the stock filter housing was to keep an “original “ look and keep most people guessing.

Sty
theriddler56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2023, 08:57 PM   #7
theriddler56
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Haines City, FL
Posts: 108
Send a message via Yahoo to theriddler56
Default Re: Oil filter

Ronnieroadster

If someone modified a stock housing for a spin on filter, that info or picture would be well appreciated.

Stephen
theriddler56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2023, 08:57 PM   #8
theriddler56
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Haines City, FL
Posts: 108
Send a message via Yahoo to theriddler56
Default Re: Oil filter

I’m well aware that not 100% of the oil is filtered. That’s why I put the “full flow” in quotes. I’m also aware that the rear main gets unfiltered oil, however the majority of the engine gets filtered oil. A by-pass system the filtered oil is dumped right back into the pan, thus “cleaning” a percentage of the oil all the crud stills goes to the bearings, etc. so I would think 95% is better than basically none at all. I agree that there would be no bypass valve in the filter, which the only time that is ever opened is if the filter is plugged or to restricted. The reason I wanted to try to use the stock filter housing was to keep an “original “ look and keep most people guessing.

Sty
theriddler56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2023, 09:07 AM   #9
Ol' Ron
Senior Member
 
Ol' Ron's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chester Vt
Posts: 8,855
Default Re: Oil filter

Having done dozens of 95% system's. I recommended welding a bracked behind the steering box and mounting the spin on filter there. It cleans up the engine compartment and is in a convenient location to replace when draining the oil. I try to do thing s that are logical and never consider aesthetics. waste of time and doesn;t offer anything to performance or economy.
Ol' Ron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2023, 09:56 AM   #10
5851a
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: NE Iowa
Posts: 1,664
Default Re: Oil filter

Hide the 95% and leave the old cannister empty and hanging on the engine.
5851a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2023, 03:06 PM   #11
Newc
Senior Member
 
Newc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,480
Default Re: Oil filter

With todays clean roads and little driving of flatheads , are oil filters necessary ?? Newc
Newc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2023, 04:31 PM   #12
ford38v8
Senior Member
 
ford38v8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 6,633
Default Re: Oil filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Newc View Post
With todays clean roads and little driving of flatheads , are oil filters necessary ?? Newc
I can’t taste the difference between my tap water and my filtered water from the refrigerator, but I always use the filtered water just because.
__________________
Alan
ford38v8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2023, 05:25 PM   #13
tubman
Senior Member
 
tubman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys
Posts: 10,302
Default Re: Oil filter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Newc View Post
With todays clean roads and little driving of flatheads , are oil filters necessary ?? Newc
Probably not, but it makes removing the stock bypass system a detrimental move.
tubman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:22 PM.