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Old 01-10-2021, 07:57 PM   #1
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By way of explanation, I have been adding photos of these "unigue to Australia" 1940-1941 Ford Open Cab Pick-Ups, and they have been gaining quite a bit of interest. However, they were "hidden" in an obscure Thread that many Barners would not have looked at, so I thought that I would start off a new Thread for those interested in these unusual Ford vehicles.

Factory Photo of an Australian Ford Open Cab Pick-Up. It is really hard to tell if this one is a 1940 model or a 1941 model, however, judging by the shape of the Trim on the front of the Hood, I am thinking that it is a 1940 model?
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thanks mercman, good idea. i would guess that regardless of how many were made, they most likely saw a similar fate as the military surplus vehicles here in the states. sold cheap for mostly commercial and agricultural uses where they beat to death with no respect. any 4wd versions ?
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Ford Australia built quite a few of these 1940 Open Cab Pick-ups. Many were used by the Army in World War II.
I saw this survivor many years ago, but it's fate is unknown. I don't know if it has been lost or saved? Out of the unknown quantity that were made, I don't think that there are many survivors. I hope that this one is still in existence and saved.
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I noticed how the doors and bed body lines are the 38 39 style 3 ribs
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Skidmarks is exactly correct when he said that the Australian 1940 and 1941 Ford Pick-Ups and Trucks continued using 3 Rids in the body creasings, carried over from 1938 and 1939. This photo of a 1939 Ford Pick-Up is from the Ford Australia Sales Brochure. Notice that in Australia, the Pick-Up Bodies followed the same shapes at the Body. The regular Pick-Up Bed that was so popular in the USA was never offered in Australia. All Pick-Up Beds were like these in the above illustrations.
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The bed side resembles the bottom half of a panel truck side but the bed is separate from the cab
The roadster cab rear section also looks like the cab size is longer then the regular closed cab

The windshield looks fixed, not a swing out style like the 38 39 but the way its capped at the top is about even with the seam on 38 39 that 40 didnt have.

What did they have for a dashboard?
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By way of explanation, I have been adding photos of these "unigue to Australia" 1940-1941 Ford Open Cab Pick-Ups, and they have been gaining quite a bit of interest. However, they were "hidden" in an obscure Thread that many Barners would not have looked at, so I thought that I would start off a new Thread for those interested in these unusual Ford vehicles.

Factory Photo of an Australian Ford Open Cab Pick-Up. It is really hard to tell if this one is a 1940 model or a 1941 model, however, judging by the shape of the Trim on the front of the Hood, I am thinking that it is a 1940 model?
I agree. You can see the stamped V8 logo in front of the louvered area. The 41 wasn’t stamped.
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Above are two pictures of the 122" Wheelbase Ford Straightside Pickups, as illustrated in the Australian Ford Sales Brochures for 1940 and 1941. You will see that the full length side trim is the "carry-over" three Ribs from the 1938 and 1939 Australian Ford models.
Unfortunately, a lot of people can't tell the differences between 1940 and 1941 Ford Pick-Ups - Trucks. If you study the above two pictures you can see slight differences in the Hood and Grille.
In the real world of 1940, all Ford Pick-Ups and Trucks came with the standard V8 Engine. So, a prominent V8 insignia was pressed in to each side of the Hoods just in front of the Vents. (see top photo) When the 1941 Ford Pick-Ups and Trucks were released, a brand new 6 Cylinder Engine was an option for the first time. Rather than having two different Hoods, Ford chose to just offer one and removed the V8 Pressings on the Hoods.
In addition to the deleted V8 Pressings from each side of the Hoods, the 1941 Ford Pick-Ups and Trucks also had slightly different Trim on the Hood and Grilles. I will add details of the differences in the Grilles in another Post.
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The closed cab trucks, were the beds part of the cab like the illustrations shown above?

1941, was the 4 cylinder engine available as a option in Australia?

Im currently putting a 1941 pickup with 6 cylinder engine and optional column shift transmission back together and some of the missing pieces have been a real challenge to locate.
Unfortunately, i missed getting an all original 1941 4 cylinder pickup that was just a couple miles from my house and it's met its fait to be chopped apart and lost to the ratrod streetrod crowd
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Above are two pictures of the 122" Wheelbase Ford Straightside Pickups, as illustrated in the Australian Ford Sales Brochures for 1940 and 1941. You will see that the full length side trim is the "carry-over" three Ribs from the 1938 and 1939 Australian Ford models.
Unfortunately, a lot of people can't tell the differences between 1940 and 1941 Ford Pick-Ups - Trucks. If you study the above two pictures you can see slight differences in the Hood and Grille.
In the real world of 1940, all Ford Pick-Ups and Trucks came with the standard V8 Engine. So, a prominent V8 insignia was pressed in to each side of the Hoods just in front of the Vents. (see top photo) When the 1941 Ford Pick-Ups and Trucks were released, a brand new 6 Cylinder Engine was an option for the first time. Rather than having two different Hoods, Ford chose to just offer one and removed the V8 Pressings on the Hoods.
In addition to the deleted V8 Pressings from each side of the Hoods, the 1941 Ford Pick-Ups and Trucks also had slightly different Trim on the Hood and Grilles. I will add details of the differences in the Grilles in another Post.
These two pics appear to be 'unibody', but you can see a seam of sorts. Looks like they did the '40s version of cut and paste, almost like they hadn't built one yet, but wanted to get the sales brochure out to the printers. From photos here, it appears the models, once in production had a separate cab and box, for what I consider obvious reasons. That 122" wb likes to flex with a good load aboard. You'll remember the short lived mid 60's unibodys.
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Here is a picture of a restored 1940 Ford Open Cab Pick-Up. Notice on this one, that the Pick-Up Bed is totally separate to the Body.
I do agree that the illustrations from the original Sales Brochures look like the Pick-Up Body is part of the Cab, but as you can see on this example, they are indeed separate. I am still trying to find pictures of an original Closed Cab Pick-Up so we can confirm one way or the other.
However, it seems that very few of this model have survived? I will have to continue my search. If anybody elas has anything, can they please add their comments.
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The rear fenders are definitely unique to these. Depth of a U.S. tonner panel fender, but the back end isn't streamlined at the tail. These are an EXTREMELY handsome vehicle, particularly the canvas topped military version. At least they are to me.
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Barn Find 1941 Ford Open Cab Pick-Up. You can tell that it is a 1941 model by the absence of the V8 Pressings on the Hood and the wide Centre Strip. Notice that the Pink-Up Bed is separate from the Body.
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To answer "skidmarks" question, my friend Peter sent me these pictures of a 1941 Ford Closed Cab Pick-Up. As you can see in these photos, the Pick-Up Bed is completely separate to the Cabin, just like with the Open Cab Pick-Ups.
It seems that "artistic licence" was used in the Illustrations that appeared in the Ford Sales Brochure.
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That closed cab truck looks like it has a fold out windshield like 38 - 39 trucks. I found a 42 to 47 style ford big truck in a junkyard years ago that had a fold out windsheild. The other thing that stood out was that instead of the 40 style instrument cluster it had the round single Stewart Warner type gauges. No signs of it being modified. Supposedly it was a ex-military truck
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A few years ago, I spotted this 1941 Ford Open Cab Pick-Up Body for sale. In a previous Post, someone was asking what the Dash looked like? This is the best that I can do at the moment. Hope that it helps.
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Here is another Australian 1941 Ford Closed Cab Pick-Up seen at a Swap Meet a few years back. A past Owner has added a Tray instead of the Pick-Up Bed. Not many of these vehicles remain over here. This is one example that has escaped. Look at the Price the Seller was asking - Wow.
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This one has the rounded back cab, but the three rib belt line... Is there no end to the variations on these Things. ?
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Here is another Australian 1941 Ford Closed Cab Pick-Up seen at a Swap Meet a few years back. A past Owner has added a Tray instead of the Pick-Up Bed. Not many of these vehicles remain over here. This is one example that has escaped. Look at the Price the Seller was asking - Wow.

I'm liking the door art
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I believe that a lot of people think that the 1940 and 1941 Ford Trucks are identical?
This style was only used for two years, 1940 and 1941. The 1941 model got slight Trim changes, as well as an optional 6 Cylinder engine. Because of this added engine, the V8 Pressings on the Hood was removed on the 1941 model.
The 1941 model also got a wider band of Trim down the centre of the Hood, extending down the front of the Grille.
The above pictures are from the Covers of the Australian Sales Brochures.
I have added them so that you can see the slight changes between the two years.
Now, the next time you see one of these Ford Trucks, you will be able to correctly identify what year it is.
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