I rebuild y blocks!

[reddog565]

Do you need your old Y block rebuilt? They are very tricky motor to build especially with the timing. And the mushroom lifters. If you don't know what you're doing, stay away from it.. I am retired, I have rebuilt y blocks.. my labor is $450 to disassemble and reassemble it! This does not include machine work or parts! I live in Pittsburgh PA. Bring the motor to me out of the car.I will disassemble it and let you know exactly what parts and machine work it needs.. thanks for looking!
Richard
724 733 8402

[darrell]

they are a bit of a handful.i rebuild about 2 a year for pastime.

[reddog565]

Hi. What is your labor charge? I want to make sure I'm being fair with people...
Thanks.

[darrell]

.sounds like you are being fair.

[CSPIDY]

Where is Pittsburgh are you located?

[reddog565]

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Plum boro. Less than an hour from West Newton..

[54vicky]

they are not that tricky built a few years ago.like any job take your time and follow the manual and keep things clean.off the top of my head the TC involved a 13 link spacing not 12-6 on gears as some.lifters again not the run of mill drop in from top like the other ones

[reddog565]

They are, if you're not familiar with all that..
Thanks for your comment.

[Dave Covey]

Reddog,


I'm looking for a .010 under main bearing for a 312. Have you got one from a broken set you could sell? Or anyone reading this?



Thanks
Dave

[reddog565]

Sorry don't have that... What I do have is a OEM camshaft and lifters they are used.. I know a new shed cost well over $350! I'll let these go for 120 plus I'll ship for free.. sorry, no returns on used parts..

[darrell]

its not the timing chain that gives you a run its cam bearings.

[Daves55Sedan]

I rebuilt my first Y-block in 1973 (age 17, I think). It was a 272. Had to: ream cyl wall ridges, hone out cyl walls, all new wrist-pin bushings, some new rocker arm bushings, all new main and piston crankshaft bearings, new timing chain & sprocket, new camshaft & bearing set. Everything was done using cheap handheld type reamers, piston ring compressor, workbench mounted wire-wheel for cleaning valves. The valve spring compressor was actually an ancient giant C-clamp (still have it) with a slot cut-out for the valve stem & keepers. I hand-lapped the valves into the seats using a hand-held spindle with a suction cup stuck to the bottom of the valve. One of the valve stems was bent. I had to replace that one valve with a new one. The worst part about the whole thing to me was the cleaning. This was the engines first rebuild and it was gunked up so bad that when you took the valve covers off, you couldn't even see the rocker shaft assembly. Valve lash adjustment sucked too, because the '55 Ford had the old type threaded stem with the slot and a locknut. Even though you held the slot where you wanted it, when you went to tighten up the locknut, it would turn the stem and make your adjustment tighter than you wanted. I had to have a second person hold the feeler guage, because you need both your hands for the screwdriver and the wrench.
Engine was still running great in 1978 when I got rid of it.

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by reddog565

Sorry don't have that... What I do have is a OEM camshaft and lifters they are used.. I know a new shed cost well over $350! I'll let these go for 120 plus I'll ship for free.. sorry, no returns on used parts..

Have you kept the lifters in their original locations? The one time I let lifters get mixed up in a Y-block, the cam went flat in short order! Ever change lifters in a Y-block with the crank and rods installed, in the car? Not fun!

[Dave Covey]

Originally Posted by reddog565

Sorry don't have that... What I do have is a OEM camshaft and lifters they are used.. I know a new shed cost well over $350! I'll let these go for 120 plus I'll ship for free.. sorry, no returns on used parts..

Thanks for looking. Hoosier Hurricane had one for me.


Dave

[Dave Covey]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

Have you kept the lifters in their original locations? The one time I let lifters get mixed up in a Y-block, the cam went flat in short order! Ever change lifters in a Y-block with the crank and rods installed, in the car? Not fun!

A lesson learned in my youth..lol
Unbelievable how many people can't understand the concept that when metal wears against metal and you switch it around that it now has to undo all the previous wear to start over.


Dave

[darrell]

ive mixed up more old lifters just used whatever looked good on y blocks and others without a problem.new cams and lifters will fail more than old ones.

[Hot Rod Reverend]

I, too, wonder what makes a Y Block “tricky”?

Originally Posted by 54vicky

they are not that tricky built a few years ago.like any job take your time and follow the manual and keep things clean.off the top of my head the TC involved a 13 link spacing not 12-6 on gears as some.lifters again not the run of mill drop in from top like the other ones

[Dave Covey]

Originally Posted by darrell

ive mixed up more old lifters just used whatever looked good on y blocks and others without a problem.new cams and lifters will fail more than old ones.

Not to get into a pissing contest, I'll just continue to do it my way and recommend the same to others.


Dave

[Lanny]

A lesson learned in my youth..lol
Unbelievable how many people can't understand the concept that when metal wears against metal and you switch it around that it now has to undo all the previous wear to start over.

Dave
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Not to get into a pissing contest, I'll just continue to do it my way and recommend the same to others.

Dave
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X 2,,,,,Dave, You are 100% correct.






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[reddog565]

Yeah we are going to get into a pissing contest. Just because you know it alls out there ,t

[Hot Rod Reverend]

I highly doubt we have any "know-it-all's" here on the Ford Barn. We tend to be a pretty good bunch of enthusiasts helping each other out with answers to difficult questions, technical advice, and the like. I dare say I learn something new here each week. For a good example, just scroll down to any of my posts/threads that I have made here on the barn - you will see a number of times there is trial and error as I go through a project. Sometimes I get served up a slice of humble pie. For a real treat to see all of my mistakes, just click on the "view" count at the header of the post list and my 55 Ford Club Sedan thread will come up at the top of the list with well over 100K views. There really is some fun things that happen and some great laughs as I work through the process.

When someone new to the site comes along and declares they rebuild Y-blocks, gives an opinion that the engine is "very tricky", and then says "If you don't know what you're doing, stay away from it..." Those things go against the grain of the spirit of the forum - it discourages the wrench turners who don't know it all to actually dive in and LEARN something about the engine. Look through the thread titles in the forum... lots of questions pertaining to the Y block and how to work on them. There are many contributors that have WAY more knowledge than I do and they are a tremendous help.

Have at it though, build as many as you can, that is a good thing. Around here we love the Y block, and many of these guys are on the y-blocksforever forum or write articles for the Y block magazine.

carry on

[emf]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod Reverend

When someone new to the site comes along and declares they rebuild Y-blocks, gives an opinion that the engine is "very tricky", and then says "If you don't know what you're doing, stay away from it..." Those things go against the grain of the spirit of the forum - it discourages the wrench turners who don't know it all to actually dive in and LEARN something about the engine.

I tend to agree with you... I always figured that if the guys on the assembly could put these together quickly, while under the pressure of the daily routine, I could do it while working in my barn under much less pressure. I learn from my mistakes...


Frank

[Daves55Sedan]

I still have the rectangular piece of cardboard labeled front and back with two rows of 16 holes for inserting the push-rods into, that I used when I was a kid rebuilding my first Y-block. Used it several times since then. That way, you can keep your push-rods in the same position they were in when you took them out and match up with the lifters. It is hoped that this helps to minimize valve-lash re-adjustment after everything is back together, as long as there are no significant changes to valves, seals and their machining in the rebuilding process.

[50fordcoupeman]

HRRev...........I also agree with your post. I find it sad that one person takes issue with another persons opinion. Opinions are formed by a persons experience and certainly we are not usually privy to that info. As discussed with you the other day, I, as fairly newbie to this hobby(I have only had two 50 Ford coupes, 52 Ford pickup and a 64 Falcon), often hesitate to post info because of just what happened on this thread. Not even Henry Ford had all the answers. This is supposed to be a hobby and be enjoyed as such. Sheesh!!!

[54vicky]

I agree totally with rev the statement about being tricky is why I took offense. blowing your nose can be tricky if you do not use a hanky or a tissue

[Dave Covey]

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There are tricks to building engines, but I haven't found one yet that is tricky to build. LOL


For example, changing the cam on a Y while still in the car. Something as simple as using clothes pins to hold the lifters up, or a strip magnet never entered my mind.

I even learned that someone made a tray to slide into the cam tunnel to catch the lifters as they were dropped out for replacement. Fishing the new ones in must have been a pleasure though.


As the Rev said we all learn and as most on Ford Barn I learn everyday.. Been turning wrench's professionally and as a hobby since 1967. My first car was a 55 Club Sedan with a 57 Merc 312.



Dave