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bobsmanstuff · 02-28-2019, 05:20 PM

I finally got the rear wheel off my 1930 pickup. The threads were reverse and now I'm going to swap it out for right hand threads. How hard is it to get the rear drum off? I would imagine it might be rusty. Who knows how long ago it was put on. Any ideas would be appreciated. Bob

Synchro909 · 02-28-2019, 05:59 PM

I'm assuming you want to take the drum of the hub. If so, you'll need to cut the swage away from around the old studs. There are cutters to do that. I've even used a hole cutter bought from the local hardware store.
I further assume the drum you have is made of steel, not cast iron. If that is so, I'd check its condition and be prepared to buy a pair of new cast iron ones and new studs made for cast drums (the parrallel shanks on them are longer than for steel drums).
Don't just press or drive the old studs out without cutting away the swage - that will ruin the hubs.

marty in Ohio · 02-28-2019, 06:01 PM

Bob,
I read your original post a few days ago and wondered what the outcome would be. Glad to hear that you got your wheel off. I friend of mine is working on a '41 Plymouth and ran into the same problem with left handed threads. I saw him bear down on the lugs one afternoon and it dawned on me that our family had a Desoto in the 50's with those threads. Righty loosy, lefty tighty. Go figure. My question is, does the front wheel have the same threads?
You will probably need to use a puller to get the drum off. They can be found at all the suppliers, or if you are in a Model A club, some member will certainly have one that you can borrow. Good Luck.
Marty

Charlie Stephens · 02-28-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bobsmanstuff

I finally got the rear wheel off my 1930 pickup. The threads were reverse and now I'm going to swap it out for right hand threads. How hard is it to get the rear drum off? I would imagine it might be rusty. Who knows how long ago it was put on. Any ideas would be appreciated. Bob

Be sure to get a proper puller for the rear hub or you will risk ruining the axle. The reproduction KR Wilson one is what you should get. Van Pelt rents them: http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ls_forsale.htm When you remove the drum from the hub have someone with a 20+ ton press that knows what they are doing. If you buy new be sure to buy them as an assembly.

Charlie Stephens

bobsmanstuff · 02-28-2019, 07:08 PM

Thanks for the information guys.

1931 flamingo · 03-01-2019, 04:30 PM

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A local club might have a puller you could borrow??
Paul in CT

katy · 03-02-2019, 12:45 PM

https://www.amazon.com/OTC-7394-Univ...ateway&sr=8-12

Joe K · 03-02-2019, 01:14 PM

The Amazon entry is nice because it is "universal - but may have the downside of bending the wheel hub flange.

Better are those in the KRW vein which grab the "groove" or "shoulder" (depending on the design of your A hub) and pull "centrally."

The original KRW puller is probably best as it will do both. These are reproduced - but not as good a buy.

Snyders is selling groove or shoulder variants for relatively small money. https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/economy-hub-puller

Heh. Here I am "one-upping" a flange mounted puller. Even KRW made a variant to do based on the lug nuts.

Probably least desirable are the "knock off" hub pullers. If used, one has to be sure the axle threads are VERY clean and burr free, and the Uber Nut is tightened all the way as far as it will go.

Hey, whatever works.

Joe K

JRrev · 03-03-2019, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe K

The Amazon entry is nice because it is "universal - but may have the downside of bending the wheel hub flange.

Better are those in the KRW vein which grab the "groove" or "shoulder" (depending on the design of your A hub) and pull "centrally."

The original KRW puller is probably best as it will do both. These are reproduced - but not as good a buy.

Snyders is selling groove or shoulder variants for relatively small money. https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/economy-hub-puller

Heh. Here I am "one-upping" a flange mounted puller. Even KRW made a variant to do based on the lug nuts.

Probably least desirable are the "knock off" hub pullers. If used, one has to be sure the axle threads are VERY clean and burr free, and the Uber Nut is tightened all the way as far as it will go.

Hey, whatever works.

Joe K

Ditto, have seen them distorted more than once.

Beater · 03-03-2019, 02:21 PM

this one came out of an old ford dealership it works well. bit more cumbersome but if you cant get it off with this one you have real probs.

katy · 03-05-2019, 11:19 AM

Beater, did you make it to the Lethbridge swap meet? You're probably a lot closer than I am.

Beater · 03-05-2019, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by katy

Beater, did you make it to the Lethbridge swap meet? You're probably a lot closer than I am.

I did not this year. the weather was just to crappy for me

02-28-2019, 05:20 PM	#1
bobsmanstuff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Mora Minn Posts: 167	rear drum I finally got the rear wheel off my 1930 pickup. The threads were reverse and now I'm going to swap it out for right hand threads. How hard is it to get the rear drum off? I would imagine it might be rusty. Who knows how long ago it was put on. Any ideas would be appreciated. Bob

02-28-2019, 05:59 PM	#2
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: rear drum I'm assuming you want to take the drum of the hub. If so, you'll need to cut the swage away from around the old studs. There are cutters to do that. I've even used a hole cutter bought from the local hardware store. I further assume the drum you have is made of steel, not cast iron. If that is so, I'd check its condition and be prepared to buy a pair of new cast iron ones and new studs made for cast drums (the parrallel shanks on them are longer than for steel drums). Don't just press or drive the old studs out without cutting away the swage - that will ruin the hubs. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

02-28-2019, 06:01 PM	#3
marty in Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 756	Re: rear drum Bob, I read your original post a few days ago and wondered what the outcome would be. Glad to hear that you got your wheel off. I friend of mine is working on a '41 Plymouth and ran into the same problem with left handed threads. I saw him bear down on the lugs one afternoon and it dawned on me that our family had a Desoto in the 50's with those threads. Righty loosy, lefty tighty. Go figure. My question is, does the front wheel have the same threads? You will probably need to use a puller to get the drum off. They can be found at all the suppliers, or if you are in a Model A club, some member will certainly have one that you can borrow. Good Luck. Marty

02-28-2019, 07:08 PM	#5
bobsmanstuff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Mora Minn Posts: 167	Re: rear drum Thanks for the information guys.

03-01-2019, 04:30 PM	#6
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: rear drum Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) A local club might have a puller you could borrow?? Paul in CT

03-02-2019, 12:45 PM	#7
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,044	Re: rear drum https://www.amazon.com/OTC-7394-Univ...ateway&sr=8-12 __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

03-02-2019, 01:14 PM	#8
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: rear drum The Amazon entry is nice because it is "universal - but may have the downside of bending the wheel hub flange. Better are those in the KRW vein which grab the "groove" or "shoulder" (depending on the design of your A hub) and pull "centrally." The original KRW puller is probably best as it will do both. These are reproduced - but not as good a buy. Snyders is selling groove or shoulder variants for relatively small money. https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/economy-hub-puller Heh. Here I am "one-upping" a flange mounted puller. Even KRW made a variant to do based on the lug nuts. Probably least desirable are the "knock off" hub pullers. If used, one has to be sure the axle threads are VERY clean and burr free, and the Uber Nut is tightened all the way as far as it will go. Hey, whatever works. Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse. Last edited by Joe K; 03-02-2019 at 01:19 PM.

03-03-2019, 02:21 PM	#10
Beater Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Southern Alberta Posts: 582	Re: rear drum this one came out of an old ford dealership it works well. bit more cumbersome but if you cant get it off with this one you have real probs.

03-05-2019, 11:19 AM	#11
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,044	Re: rear drum Beater, did you make it to the Lethbridge swap meet? You're probably a lot closer than I am. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!