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Not many Moels A's at Barret Jackson
Last Tues (Jan 26th) I was at the Barrett Jackson Auction in Scottsdale AZ. just to look around. There were 1510 cars to be auctioned throughout the week. I only saw two stock Model A's a 28 PU & a 29 sport cp. May have been more but that's all I saw. Lots of beautiful cars & big prices paid.
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If you think of the dollar value of the average car sold at BJ, it's not surprising that few Model A's are listed --just too small of a value with the exception of very rare and high dollar A's.
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there was a lot of eye candy and from what I saw on the computer without commercials and comments from talking heads (no cable or DTV) the prices were down from a few years ago when the average hemi was going for 300K one after another. I would like to go to see the offerings but feel that one would do much better price wise staying away from an arena where so many people with big wallets and bigger ego are bidding on vehicles. But it is amusing to see someone pay 99K for a Fiat Jolley. And with my limited budget there isn't much I could afford to buy without killing my retirement fund. A question, do they allow you to inspect the vehicles closely? When I purchase a vehicle I do a complete inspection and often include lift time to really inspect the underneath.
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You can look all you want , but no test drives.I have purchased 2 vehicles at BJ over the years and was screwed badly one and the other was O.K..Some of these guys are masters at getting the car over the ramp for sale but their cars are all cosmetic !
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Depends on the auction. In my limited experience, the review area cars are behind ropes or have "Don't Touch" signs, and the owners or representatives are nearby to answer questions. If you want to see underneath, you can ask the owner if you can crawl underneath it, and maybe they will approve. Seriously doubt they will let you jack it up or put it on a lift, if one was available. |
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As usual Barret-Jackson put on a terrific display of idiots. That auction has been and remains stupid.
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when I hear BJ, all I can think of are resto mods................
which have absolutely no interest to me. very few stock older cars, the mkt isnt there and BJ wants to make big money and they do.....................! |
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ronn is right and it IS all about the money nothing more nothing less.
The TV circus of auctions and 'pickers' has done nothing good for the hobby, only created a lot of trouble. For the true old car hobbyist. Today's mind set thanks to Amer. Pickers and Gas Monkey Garage is 'How can I screw this poor schmuck, flip this car and make a big fast profit?' Look at me I'm the Man and that guy is a dope The only TV car show I watch anymore is PhantomWorks at least they kinda restore old cars everything from Velies and Oaklands thru the 60's stuff. Fun to see what they do and most of it is restoration not street rodding per se. |
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next year to watch the auction without commercials or anything else just the cars and the bidding, watch it as a live stream on the internet @ barrett jackson.com all you have to do is register and you got it.. SO much better than on TV. It is amazing to see Mike Joy and the others walking around talking into a mike, and the only thing you hear is the auctioneer and comments about the car coming from the platform, no talking heads on the internet version
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It's like a BIG SCAM to empty out wallets. We'd be shocked f we knew all the PHONY BALONEY that went on! How many sales are REALLY made, as it appears? P.T.Barnum once said, "THERE'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE"!
Even MOST TV is phony, just to sell advertising time for BIG BUCKS$$$$$$$$$$$ Bill W.
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BJ is just that a waste of smart peoples time. Rates right up ther with BOYD Coddington and his Train wreck and ass monkeys no I do not watch T V
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I was told 15% from both buyer and seller, that's big dollars on some of these cars. It also inflates the price on an average car, had a guy tell me his 67 Mustang was worth $50,000 because he saw it on BJ. His was a rusted out notch back and the car sold was a rare fast back.
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I am with Indiana A. Lover, I don't have time to watch television.
I do enjoy reading the auction results in the car mags, long after they are over. Someone in our local chapter of the V8 club summarizes the results and sends them out. That is worth a perusal. I saw a couple of DeSotos went for what I think is stupid money, but what in the heck do I know about late 50's DeSotos? The $88K the 1940 Ford Chassis went for seems ridiculous, too. You could buy a nice car for that kind of money. |
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If you don't watch it how can you possibly critique it! One of the highest viewed programs on television last week. If you ever attended one you would have a far different opinion. Some of the world's finest vehicles are viewed by millions and they can't all be dumb. Wayne
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Unfortunately, I have a bad habit of watching them all. Chasing Classic Cars is without a doubt the best one. Gas(bag)-Monkey garage can be the worest one sometimes. Graveyard Cars can be fun at times. That guy deffinitely knows his MoPar muscle(head)-cars.
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Let me assure you that what I have been paid and what I have paid have been very legitimate. I have never seen the integrity of BJ ever questioned but on this site. Not in a magazine, a website or even in private conversation. Maybe people that drive 5000 to 20,000 dollar cars just can't fathom that other people have that much money to spend on a car. Not one person has presented anything but an option, no proof whatsoever.
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no I do not watch T V
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I've never seen any of the car shows.I constantly get people in here that say the pickers or the dickerers would like this.i never knew what they were talking about,then somebody showed up scouting for a TV show.He talked like they were trying to create and film a segment to sell to a show.I sometimes see car auctions on TV now because a pizza place in town has a TV in the corner with them running.I think there was one on either Saturday or Sunday last weekend.When cable first came to town I had looked into it,but I really couldn't see spending $25.or so a month just to watch a TV.Plus,I would have had to add two poles to hold the wire.The distances were too long between poles for the wire technology at the time.
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I also have never had cable TV, so I never see those shows. I do get to watch some of the good old comedies from the 50's and 60's now that the TV stations have the new signals and more programs.
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I work on the Model A's in my cellar,so it's not too hard to get up from a TV and do something.I have slowed down a lot working on them when I have to take something out to the big garage to weld,sandblast,paint,or anything I need the big tools for.I used to put a car together over a winter,now I've had my Tudor in there for about five yeas just to put an interior in it.Of course I wanted to do all the glass tracks in it at the same time,found I had all plate glass in it,the original top was tatty,found a rust hole in the rear seat riser,shim the body a little because the blocks were dried and split,and all just because I scored an LB interior from a street rodder that took one from a restored car he was rodding.
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The resto car shows are all about people we used to pay extra to see at carnivals. (example; " see the Tatooed guy or gal" ) they look like a bunch of weirdos and then throw in the constant Bleeping of their foul vocabulary. That's when it's time to go play with my cars again. I was paid to have to listen to that kind of profanity for 30 yrs. I don't get paid for that anymore and I don't want to hear it from guys and gals who try to prove their manliness through their mouths. Just My Opinion. Thank God we still have that left.
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Lots of comments about the B-J auction. I would not have gone but we are here in AZ in the motor home, it was my b'day & my uncle was here from Iowa so we went. According to the paper $105M in sales. That was combined memorabilia & cars. Memorabilia sales has really gotten big at B-J. Sales were down 23% from last yrs. record of $137M. The 40 Ford chassis someone mentioned that went for $88K was a cutaway showing the internal parts of the motor, tranny, rear end gear, shocks, etc. It would make a beautiful museum piece & that's it. I believe the auctions have put very inflated prices on collectable cars. Many of these cars are modified to the point you wouldn't want to drive & enjoy them, but they are fun to look at. I did see two early T-birds (56 & 57) sell Fri. on TV. Both went for just over $100K. It might have been just the catalyst I need to finish the 55 I bought for my wife almost 20 yrs. ago. I've restored two other cars since buying the T-bird which is about 1/2 done. Maybe it's time to start working on it again. Enjoy your Model A's.
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At times, I DO pick up on some fine acts of craftsmanship & good mechanical advice.
I only see replacement floor sections TACK welded in place, do they later weld them solid??? or do they just cover them with MUCHO Undercoating??? I always "wonder" how much BONDO is in some classy cars??? With BONDO, you don't have to be a skilled bodyman, just have to be a GREAT SCULPTURER!!!! Bill W.
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I wonder if the previous owner of the '74 Firebird Super duty that sold the car to Gas Monkey for $35K watched his car sell for $95-100K. It was a one owner car that Gas Monkey stole for $35K (if the show was giving the actual price). Then gas Monkey flipped it to his buddy for $45K straight off of the trailer who then took it to B-J. I believe it was just cleaned up and buffed...a $50K detailing?
I wonder if the car TV guys often get a great deal since they show up with cameras and stuff. Some people eat that stuff up.
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Great Point! I often wonder that myself. I wouldn't sell any of those reality shows anything! Just find out what they are hot over. The "Pickers"used to brag about all the money they made on this or that hick. "Ha Ha, we really screwed over those hayseeds!" I didn't expect that from two guys from Iowa, NY, NJ, Ca, Yeah! It's a tough day for them when someone wants full price for their item! What do I need this for?
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I wonder what this would go for on BJ?
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Never watched it, never will.
Mine is priceless, I don't need anyone to tell me what mine is worth, and even if they did I would pay them no mind. It's just "their" opinion. And we all know, opinions are like A-holes...everyone has one, some people have two.
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Someday I'll post about a segment of a reality TV show concerning craft beer brewing that was filmed at our home. What a crock of BS!
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