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M2M · 09-20-2015, 06:39 PM

http://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/5230098429.html

RonC · 09-20-2015, 06:43 PM

4 speeds were an option. They used AA 4 speeds

Benson · 09-20-2015, 06:57 PM

Something strange about the 4 Speed in photo #17....

BILL WILLIAMSON · 09-20-2015, 06:59 PM

Well, he had nice PICS!
Bill W.

160B · 09-20-2015, 07:00 PM

Here is a photo the Factory 4-speed with an aluminum case??????

Ron W · 09-20-2015, 07:32 PM

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The trans looks like the RTS from a '84-'87 F150. Ron W

kenparker · 09-20-2015, 07:38 PM

u r right Ron W. That IS a F150 RTS coupled to a AA Bell Housing.

Al 29Tudor · 09-20-2015, 07:57 PM

Will the F150 RTS and AA bell housing fit right in as a bolt up?
Would the stock drive shaft and universal have to be modified?
Is the F150 RTS forth gear an overdrive?
Thanks for any info you can give me, I'd really appreciate the help.
Al Leach

MAG · 09-20-2015, 09:53 PM

Will the F150 RTS and AA bell housing fit right in as a bolt up?.....No
The bellhousing will bolt up to the flywheel housing.
The F150 RTS will not bolt up to the bellhousing.

Would the stock drive shaft and universal have to be modified?
...Drive shaft... Yes universal joint...No.

Is the F150 RTS forth gear an overdrive?....Yes.

Do a search of this subject. There have been many posts regarding it.

quickchange · 09-20-2015, 09:57 PM

1930 roaster pick up here , came new with AA truck 4 speed , only one I have seen .

1955cj5 · 09-20-2015, 10:08 PM

Doesn't look like my 4-speed....but it still may be a great driving car...it sure looks nice..

40 Deluxe · 09-21-2015, 01:14 AM

Ads like this make me want to ban, outlaw, and horsewhip car flippers!

kenparker · 09-21-2015, 07:32 AM

Mag.

kenparker · 09-21-2015, 07:38 AM

MAG. You are partially right and wrong. The F150 Aluminum Case is Redrilled and Tapped on the front to match the bolt holes in the AA Bell House (or an A BellHouse)- then four new 1/2" bolts are used to attach Trans Case to directly to BH.

As built from the factory not a direct bolt up - with new bolts holes drilled and tapped it is a direct bolt up.

Al 29Tudor · 09-21-2015, 07:56 AM

MAG,
Thanks for the direct answers to my questions.
Looks like the Mitchell is really the best upgrade for the model A.
Al

Ron W · 09-21-2015, 07:59 AM

There is some machine work required. I built my own. The gears are all syncro with overdrive in the box. The shifter is almost in original location. To me, it is the best driving of all the options available for the Model A. Ron W

MAG · 09-21-2015, 09:16 AM

Ken,
"Will the F150 RTS and AA bell housing fit right in as a bolt up?.....No"
I chose this answer to the question because I did not want to mislead Al 29 Tudor into thinking this was a true "bolt up" installation. We both know the bolt pattern on the AA bellhousing is not the same pattern as the F150 and that, as you say, the F150 case must be drilled to match the AA bellhousing. And, in some instances, the throwout collar must be machined slightly to fit into the AA bellhousing.
I should have been more specific and detailed in my first answer. Sorry,

old victoria · 09-21-2015, 09:34 AM

by the looks of that rear adpt. conversion by modelaonly here in calif.

TinCup · 09-21-2015, 09:38 AM

I suspect a third party did the posting who is not Model A certified.

Ron W · 09-21-2015, 11:08 AM

It should probably be mentioned that "Bolt on" kits are available from suppliers who have done all the "magical" machine work. Ron W

09-20-2015, 06:43 PM	#2
RonC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,868	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? 4 speeds were an option. They used AA 4 speeds

09-20-2015, 06:57 PM	#3
Benson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Something strange about the 4 Speed in photo #17.... Last edited by Benson; 09-22-2015 at 07:12 AM.

09-20-2015, 06:59 PM	#4
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Well, he had nice PICS! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

09-20-2015, 07:32 PM	#6
Ron W Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Me. Posts: 260	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The trans looks like the RTS from a '84-'87 F150. Ron W

09-20-2015, 07:38 PM	#7
kenparker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Van, Texas Posts: 1,122	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? u r right Ron W. That IS a F150 RTS coupled to a AA Bell Housing.

09-20-2015, 06:39 PM	#1
M2M Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia/USA/EU/Soviet Russia Posts: 1,105	Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? http://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/5230098429.html

09-20-2015, 07:57 PM	#8
Al 29Tudor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 648	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Will the F150 RTS and AA bell housing fit right in as a bolt up? Would the stock drive shaft and universal have to be modified? Is the F150 RTS forth gear an overdrive? Thanks for any info you can give me, I'd really appreciate the help. Al Leach

09-20-2015, 09:53 PM	#9
MAG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 925	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Will the F150 RTS and AA bell housing fit right in as a bolt up?.....No The bellhousing will bolt up to the flywheel housing. The F150 RTS will not bolt up to the bellhousing. Would the stock drive shaft and universal have to be modified? ...Drive shaft... Yes universal joint...No. Is the F150 RTS forth gear an overdrive?....Yes. Do a search of this subject. There have been many posts regarding it. __________________ I noticed the harder I work the luckier I get!

09-20-2015, 09:57 PM	#10
quickchange Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nelson. New Zealand Posts: 2,008	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? 1930 roaster pick up here , came new with AA truck 4 speed , only one I have seen .

09-21-2015, 01:14 AM	#12
40 Deluxe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: now Kuna, Idaho Posts: 3,778	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Ads like this make me want to ban, outlaw, and horsewhip car flippers!

09-21-2015, 07:32 AM	#13
kenparker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Van, Texas Posts: 1,122	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Mag.

09-21-2015, 07:38 AM	#14
kenparker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Van, Texas Posts: 1,122	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? MAG. You are partially right and wrong. The F150 Aluminum Case is Redrilled and Tapped on the front to match the bolt holes in the AA Bell House (or an A BellHouse)- then four new 1/2" bolts are used to attach Trans Case to directly to BH. As built from the factory not a direct bolt up - with new bolts holes drilled and tapped it is a direct bolt up.

09-21-2015, 07:56 AM	#15
Al 29Tudor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 648	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? MAG, Thanks for the direct answers to my questions. Looks like the Mitchell is really the best upgrade for the model A. Al

09-21-2015, 07:59 AM	#16
Ron W Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Me. Posts: 260	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? There is some machine work required. I built my own. The gears are all syncro with overdrive in the box. The shifter is almost in original location. To me, it is the best driving of all the options available for the Model A. Ron W

09-21-2015, 09:16 AM	#17
MAG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 925	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? Ken, "Will the F150 RTS and AA bell housing fit right in as a bolt up?.....No" I chose this answer to the question because I did not want to mislead Al 29 Tudor into thinking this was a true "bolt up" installation. We both know the bolt pattern on the AA bellhousing is not the same pattern as the F150 and that, as you say, the F150 case must be drilled to match the AA bellhousing. And, in some instances, the throwout collar must be machined slightly to fit into the AA bellhousing. I should have been more specific and detailed in my first answer. Sorry, __________________ I noticed the harder I work the luckier I get!

09-21-2015, 09:34 AM	#18
old victoria Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 44	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? by the looks of that rear adpt. conversion by modelaonly here in calif.

09-21-2015, 09:38 AM	#19
TinCup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: OKC / Tonkawa, Ok. Posts: 1,977	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? I suspect a third party did the posting who is not Model A certified. __________________ Oklahoma City Model A Restorers Group.

09-21-2015, 11:08 AM	#20
Ron W Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Me. Posts: 260	Re: Factory 4 speed on 31 Vicky ? It should probably be mentioned that "Bolt on" kits are available from suppliers who have done all the "magical" machine work. Ron W