The Ford Barn

BILL WZOREK · 04-20-2014, 08:01 AM

Is Gasohol

just a U.S.phenomenom

or is it world wide?

G.M. · 04-20-2014, 08:33 AM

USA only as far as I have heard. G.M.

green50 · 04-20-2014, 08:40 AM

I'm fortunate enough to have a choice. There are several places near me that have non-ethanol gas.

BILL WZOREK · 04-20-2014, 08:42 AM

If that is so , I wonder if some over sea Barners would Jump in and explain the extent of Vapor Lock that he Have to deal with.

keith oh · 04-20-2014, 10:48 AM

Good idea Bill Wzorek, and I can remember the so called" Vapor Lock" problem long before Gasohol existed.

sidevalve8ba · 04-20-2014, 10:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by green50

I'm fortunate enough to have a choice. There are several places near me that have non-ethanol gas.

http://pure-gas.org

Here's a good place to check for non-ethanol gas possibly in your area. It is divided into states so you can check out possible locations near you. I find it a big help. I don't have to look far in this area to find stations that deal in non-ethanol gas. Makes me happy.

BILL WZOREK · 04-20-2014, 11:18 AM

sidevalve8ba ;

You look at that list & the 1st thing I saw was There is ~ NO GASOHOL ~ in ALASKA ???

sidevalve8ba · 04-20-2014, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WZOREK

sidevalve8ba ;

You look at that list & the 1st thing I saw was There is ~ NO GASOHOL ~ in ALASKA ???

I guess there are too many snowmobiles and chain saws.

Joe AZ · 04-20-2014, 12:27 PM

I'm amazed by this.....I spent most of my life in Minnesota, where a lot of this corn is grown, and refined. There are 414 options for "corn free" gas in Minnesota. I now live in Arizona, where there are 13 options. Do Minnesotan's, who grow a lot of this corn know something no one else does?
Joe

Lawson Cox · 04-20-2014, 07:47 PM

There was corn gas in the 30's at some stations. Someone posted a picture on here a little while back.

FortyNiner · 04-20-2014, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe AZ

I'm amazed by this.....I spent most of my life in Minnesota, where a lot of this corn is grown, and refined. There are 414 options for "corn free" gas in Minnesota. I now live in Arizona, where there are 13 options. Do Minnesotan's, who grow a lot of this corn know something no one else does?
Joe

Outdoor power equipment - boats, especially - are not fans of ethanol. Considering the popularity of outdoor sports in the state, the number of non-corn gas options makes sense to me.

Dec211975 · 04-20-2014, 08:46 PM

Ethanol is produced world wide, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_by_country the United States currently is the largest producer with Brazil following, since 2006 Indy cars have been running on 98% ethanol 2 % gasoline the 2% gasoline is required by the ATF so it is unfit for human consumption. Since 2010 Sunoco has been providing the Ethanol for Indy cars (Plants in Canada). Henry Ford told a New York Times reporter that ethyl alcohol was “the fuel of the future” in 1925.

I remember Vapor lock in the 60s long before there was a 10 % methanol blend that would corrode metals and attach rubber Ethanol is not as corrosive as Methanol and less harmful to rubber. In the late 90s and to about 2005 there were a large number of ethanol plants built and ethanol replaced the Methanol in the fuel (although ethanol is more corrosive than gasoline) it is far less corrosive than methanol. I run my small engines as well as my vehicles on a 10% blend of Ethanol. I hold the class A license UGST for (Federal/State requirement) several gas stations owned by the Ethanol plant I work at as well as perform maintenance at the Ethanol plant. I am amazed by the number of empty bottles of gas line deicer (ethanol) in the trash in the winter. I closing if you want to buy gas without ethanol buy it, I see no adverse effects to a 10 % blend of ethanol, I feel my job won't be outsourced to China like my previous job and if you follow and buy Ethanol stock such as ande or gpre you could have a sizable return on your portfolio.

Regards,

Brian

Alaska Jim · 04-21-2014, 02:29 AM

It is true that there is no ethanol fuel in the in the state of Alaska, at least not that I am aware of. and we do have more than snowmachines and chain saws here. there are some very nice early Fords here, not as plentiful as the lower 48 states, but many as good or better than a lot of the lower 48 states vehicles. I have a place in Mineola Tx. and there is a place there that sells ethanol free fuel. It is a bit more costly. when I was there last winter, they only had 87 octane, and could no longer get premium 93 octane. I was disappointed in that as my old 2 stroke outboard requires 92 or better octane. guess I have to use the ethanol in it and hope for the best.

04-20-2014, 08:01 AM	#1
BILL WZOREK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florence Ma. Posts: 2,404	Question ~ Gasohol ~ Is Gasohol just a U.S.phenomenom or is it world wide?

04-20-2014, 08:33 AM	#2
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ USA only as far as I have heard. G.M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

04-20-2014, 08:40 AM	#3
green50 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: North Georgia Posts: 392	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ I'm fortunate enough to have a choice. There are several places near me that have non-ethanol gas. __________________ Gene

04-20-2014, 08:42 AM	#4
BILL WZOREK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florence Ma. Posts: 2,404	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ If that is so , I wonder if some over sea Barners would Jump in and explain the extent of Vapor Lock that he Have to deal with.

04-20-2014, 10:48 AM	#5
keith oh Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Millersport, central ohio Posts: 668	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ Good idea Bill Wzorek, and I can remember the so called" Vapor Lock" problem long before Gasohol existed.

04-20-2014, 11:18 AM	#7
BILL WZOREK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florence Ma. Posts: 2,404	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ sidevalve8ba ; You look at that list & the 1st thing I saw was There is ~ NO GASOHOL ~ in ALASKA ???

04-20-2014, 12:27 PM	#9
Joe AZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prescott, WI Posts: 336	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ I'm amazed by this.....I spent most of my life in Minnesota, where a lot of this corn is grown, and refined. There are 414 options for "corn free" gas in Minnesota. I now live in Arizona, where there are 13 options. Do Minnesotan's, who grow a lot of this corn know something no one else does? Joe

04-20-2014, 07:47 PM	#10
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ There was corn gas in the 30's at some stations. Someone posted a picture on here a little while back. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

04-20-2014, 08:46 PM	#12
Dec211975 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Monroe, Wi Posts: 247	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ Ethanol is produced world wide, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_by_country the United States currently is the largest producer with Brazil following, since 2006 Indy cars have been running on 98% ethanol 2 % gasoline the 2% gasoline is required by the ATF so it is unfit for human consumption. Since 2010 Sunoco has been providing the Ethanol for Indy cars (Plants in Canada). Henry Ford told a New York Times reporter that ethyl alcohol was “the fuel of the future” in 1925. I remember Vapor lock in the 60s long before there was a 10 % methanol blend that would corrode metals and attach rubber Ethanol is not as corrosive as Methanol and less harmful to rubber. In the late 90s and to about 2005 there were a large number of ethanol plants built and ethanol replaced the Methanol in the fuel (although ethanol is more corrosive than gasoline) it is far less corrosive than methanol. I run my small engines as well as my vehicles on a 10% blend of Ethanol. I hold the class A license UGST for (Federal/State requirement) several gas stations owned by the Ethanol plant I work at as well as perform maintenance at the Ethanol plant. I am amazed by the number of empty bottles of gas line deicer (ethanol) in the trash in the winter. I closing if you want to buy gas without ethanol buy it, I see no adverse effects to a 10 % blend of ethanol, I feel my job won't be outsourced to China like my previous job and if you follow and buy Ethanol stock such as ande or gpre you could have a sizable return on your portfolio. Regards, Brian

04-21-2014, 02:29 AM	#13
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Question ~ Gasohol ~ It is true that there is no ethanol fuel in the in the state of Alaska, at least not that I am aware of. and we do have more than snowmachines and chain saws here. there are some very nice early Fords here, not as plentiful as the lower 48 states, but many as good or better than a lot of the lower 48 states vehicles. I have a place in Mineola Tx. and there is a place there that sells ethanol free fuel. It is a bit more costly. when I was there last winter, they only had 87 octane, and could no longer get premium 93 octane. I was disappointed in that as my old 2 stroke outboard requires 92 or better octane. guess I have to use the ethanol in it and hope for the best.