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Tod · 11-03-2016, 10:37 AM

Picture of my first aluminum Winfield on the first aluminum block. I hope to have first OP machining finished on the block within a week. Anxious to see this one built and running.

Tod

CarlG · 11-03-2016, 10:54 AM

Looking good!

SeaSlugs · 11-03-2016, 11:14 AM

oooh.

I know theres multiple threads on these engine and it may have already been mentioned:

Whats the weight savings between standard iron block iron head VS aluminum? Curious as to how much that would affect the power to weight ratio (combined with lightened fly wheel could be a snappy little guy)

Bud · 11-03-2016, 11:15 AM

May I ask what aluminum alloy you chose for the block and the head?

Bulligen · 11-03-2016, 11:24 AM

Very Cool, can't wait to hear one!

Tim Ayers · 11-03-2016, 11:26 AM

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ronn · 11-03-2016, 11:32 AM

Nice job Tod! would love to see one run..........

mshmodela · 11-03-2016, 11:57 AM

Great! Sound like a invite for the engine builders... If you end up doing this yourself, I surely would like to drive and see or give a hand.

Fullraceflathead · 11-03-2016, 01:03 PM

Glad to see all your hard work starting to pay off!

Terry, NJ · 11-03-2016, 01:06 PM

Excellent! Keep it coming!
Terry

Tod · 11-03-2016, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud

May I ask what aluminum alloy you chose for the block and the head?

356 heat treated to T6.

Tod

California Travieso · 11-03-2016, 04:20 PM

Tod,

Do you know if the engine builders are set up and experienced enough to build an engine with an aluminum block? Would they need special equipment to handle an aluminum block? Would the engine have to have inset bearings?

David Serrano

Tod · 11-03-2016, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSlugs

oooh.

I know theres multiple threads on these engine and it may have already been mentioned:

Whats the weight savings between standard iron block iron head VS aluminum? Curious as to how much that would affect the power to weight ratio (combined with lightened fly wheel could be a snappy little guy)

The weight savings on the block and the head would be in the neighborhood of 50 lbs. I am also about to machine some aluminum flywheel housings for Snyder, which would save a little more weight. The block and the head will easily handle the low HP produced by these engines. Shaving weight might help with pep.

Tod

hardtimes · 11-03-2016, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod

Picture of my first aluminum Winfield on the first aluminum block. I hope to have first OP machining finished on the block within a week. Anxious to see this one built and running.

Tod

Wow

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thanks for sharing picture

, PM sent

Tom Wesenberg · 11-03-2016, 05:56 PM

That's great!

Now in your spare time you need to start making then in 1/4 scale so I can mount one on my bike.

George Miller · 11-03-2016, 06:18 PM

nice looking engine Tod.

waxhead · 11-04-2016, 02:32 AM

Awesome, I hope some engine builders are watching. Build them and they will come.

Aerocraft · 11-04-2016, 05:50 AM

The weight savings sure would be a plus for the Pietenpol airplane builders !

Tod · 11-04-2016, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerocraft

The weight savings sure would be a plus for the Pietenpol airplane builders !

I have the dual plug aluminum head for them also.

Tod

Tod · 11-04-2016, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

That's great!

Now in your spare time you need to start making then in 1/4 scale so I can mount one on my bike.

What is this "spare time" of which you speak?

Tod

11-03-2016, 10:54 AM	#2
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Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: Aluminum on aluminum! Excellent! Keep it coming! Terry

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California Travieso Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Moreno Valley, CA Posts: 946	Re: Aluminum on aluminum! Tod, Do you know if the engine builders are set up and experienced enough to build an engine with an aluminum block? Would they need special equipment to handle an aluminum block? Would the engine have to have inset bearings? David Serrano

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Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Aluminum on aluminum! That's great! Now in your spare time you need to start making then in 1/4 scale so I can mount one on my bike.

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George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: Aluminum on aluminum! nice looking engine Tod.

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