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Old 12-03-2017, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default 1928 rumble seat latch install

My roadster came with some new parts in a box, among them a new latch for the rumble seat. Currently, the car has no latch at all.



Some of it is there, anyway...



No obvious place to put this. The previous owner couldn't figure it out either.



Does a slot get cut into the leading edge of the deck lid for it to slide into?
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:18 PM   #2
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What you have is a converted trunk lid. you need to find someone that has a rumble lid that you can get the measurements off of to cut that slot. hopefully there is a latch in there so that they put the hole for the handle in the correct place.
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Old 12-03-2017, 07:06 PM   #3
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See number 8 at this link. http://www.mikes-afordable.com/docum...Conversion.pdf
The pictures are terrible.

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Old 12-03-2017, 09:36 PM   #4
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What you have is a converted trunk lid. you need to find someone that has a rumble lid that you can get the measurements off of to cut that slot. hopefully there is a latch in there so that they put the hole for the handle in the correct place.
We'll see. The handle spins round and round, so probably not.

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See number 8 at this link. http://www.mikes-afordable.com/docum...Conversion.pdf
The pictures are terrible.

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Yes, pics could be better, but good info. Thanks, everything helps.
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:46 PM   #5
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I don't see the rain gutters. Maybe I'm just not seeing the picture correctly.

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Old 12-03-2017, 11:56 PM   #6
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Definitely there, the flash just washed them out.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:17 AM   #7
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These have to do with converting a rumble seat back to a trunk but maybe some of the photos will help you out:

http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/studie...%20PART_1A.pdf

http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/studie..._Part_%202.pdf

http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/studie..._Part_%203.pdf

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Thanks Steve.

As delivered, the repro latch didn't open all the way, the tab ran hard into the inside wall so the handle could not be locked in the open position.



To fix it, I had to grind a bunch of material off the top.


Naturally, that made the notch too big, and the top of the tab came off before it would open all the way. So I welded a filler piece in the slot and dressed it down.



Now it opens up all the way and locks in both positions.



Top tip: When welding crappy Chineseum, use one lower heat setting than what your mig chart suggests.

In the next installment: Pfft - that's alotta bondo.

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Old 12-05-2017, 09:37 PM   #9
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I had this much space in the deck lid for the latch to slip into. About the width of the latch box, but not with the top ring.



Doing it the right way would require reworking the deck lid and repainting it. Pass. So:





I don't think the ring is supposed to protrude through the outer deck skin, but with that filler, there was no choice to properly place it.



I'll make a new access panel and retain it with sheet metal screws.

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Old 12-05-2017, 10:31 PM   #10
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sorry, but you did not have to cut out the inside of the lid. the latch should just slide right up in there. looks good so far. now you have cut the slot.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:17 PM   #11
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sorry, but you did not have to cut out the inside of the lid. the latch should just slide right up in there. looks good so far. now you have cut the slot.
The opening was 1/4" too narrow, as shown above in the bondo pic. This deck lid looks great on the outside, on the inside it's been reworked eight ways from Sunday.

Job done.

I transferred the slot to the lid with a pattern and cut the slot with a cut-off wheel and a file.



I then made a close out panel with 18 gauge, flanged it, and retained it with Model A approved slotted screws. I had the local paint shop match the paint pretty closely and applied a few coats.







So now I have a working latch. But the lock does not work, as the bondo made for too wide a gap for the locking dog to engage the slots. I can fix that, just weld a ring shaped extension on to the current ring and cut the slots into it so they are deeper. I'll do that later. In the mean time, the next project will be to do something about the big-time play in the early 7 tooth steering box so the car is a bit less exciting at speed.
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:33 PM   #12
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you did a great job. it is most always tuff to try to clean up someone else's work.
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Be very careful as the latch can strike the panel if in the latched position when closing the deck lid.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:50 AM   #14
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you did a great job. it is most always tuff to try to clean up someone else's work.
Thanks. Nothing I wasn't expecting really, I'm sure there's more.

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Be very careful as the latch can strike the panel if in the latched position when closing the deck lid.
Good point. It will catch the very edge of the panel, so I will be careful. Apparently Ford recognized this design flaw and moved the latch and striker plate rearward on the 1930 models.
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