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Old 08-12-2021, 06:08 PM   #1
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Default Can someone ID this ignition coil?

Not mine, asking for someone else...
This coil is in a '56 T-Bird, it's not original to the car. .FAC-12029-A . [7113]
The owner would like any info about it he can get, tech specs or otherwise. (in addition to: 12v, external resistor) Due to the unexpected construction of the top.
What was it original to, what are it's ratings, etc. ???
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Old 08-12-2021, 07:59 PM   #2
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Question Re: Can someone ID this ignition coil?

... hmmph ...

Here is an exact reproduction decal -

https://www.autoware.com.au/shop/cla...on-coil-decal/

FAC-12029-A is the ENG NO for the B6A 12029-B 12V IGN COIL used with points systems (1956-1974).

I guess you realize I will be up all night to find an answer ...
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:02 AM   #3
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OK ...

The coil itself appears to be from a FORD - NEW HOLLAND TRACTOR. Why, I would not know but have seen stranger things. The DECAL is repro - https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tru...-64-coil-decal - and this site will give you years of applications for the FORD BRANDED coil. The first character 7 is the year of manufacture, 1957 I would assume. 1965/ was branded AUTOLITE, 1972/3 MOTORCRAFT.

The coil shown has a retainer attached to the top to hold the coil wire down. I keep getting reference to D5TE-12029-AB but cannot find a photo of an exact FORD coil, only aftermarket.

This is what I THINK it is. It may be something entirely different.
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Old 08-13-2021, 09:08 AM   #4
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I have never seen anything like it, but will take a wild guess. Its part of a 67 transistor ignition system?
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Old 08-13-2021, 11:25 AM   #5
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KULTULZ & flatrod,
Thanks for the information. If it looks familiar to anyone else let me know and I'll pass it along.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:04 PM   #6
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I looked through the NAPA Echlin catalog for all the IC prefix coils and they didn't have anything like it. The screw on high tension lead cap may have been superseded at some point if it was a Ford part. They did use the mustard color for a long time. The screws would have needed to go into plastic to keep the insulated from cross firing to the high tension lead and that could have led to stripped threads.

I had a 1964 T-bird with transistorized ignition but it had a regular mustard top coil. The transistor box was mounted under the dash to keep it cool but it had started to fail when I purchased the car. I bypassed the transistor and put points & condenser back in to repair it. Those old transistors would last longer than points but the problem was that they weren't as easy to source as a set of points & condenser when it crapped out. The system was dropped by FoMoCo due to problems and spare parts became unobtainium after that.

I was looking at a coil being sold as a part to fit the T-birds and it appeared to have a tower that is off set from center with the two primary terminals on one side. This looks like it was made to clear something wherever it was mounted. I know zilch about the small birds but this may have been why that coil was used.

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The PERMA-TUNE coil used was C3TZ 12029-A and is shown in referring URL -

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32408768006...MakeTrack=true
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If it looks familiar to anyone else let me know and I'll pass it along.
Ask him when he takes it off if he can take close-up photos.
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Ask him when he takes it off if he can take close-up photos.
I asked for a few more photos. I'll pass them along.
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Old 08-13-2021, 06:16 PM   #10
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Default Re: Can someone ID this ignition coil?

A few more photos.
It looks to have been made for a bolt-on round ballast resistor as part of the setup.
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Old 08-13-2021, 06:56 PM   #11
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Question Re: Can someone ID this ignition coil?

That has to be a period aftermarket performance coil, such as MALLORY. I bet someone over at the H.A.M.B. could ID it.
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Default Re: Can someone ID this ignition coil?

Why doesn’t he post it himself and save the back and forth?
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Why doesn’t he post it himself and save the back and forth?


Maybe he is not a member here?

What difference does it make ?
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Default Re: Can someone ID this ignition coil?

It's a Mallory since the Big M can be seen on the clamp. It looks like it has a ballast resistor as an integral part. It's a different type than I've ever seen before but a lot of aftermarket stuff is still out there like the old IC55 Echlin Bear coils.
Here is a good thread from the HAMB. one of the posts has a coil a lot like it.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...thread.861293/

I found a photo of a Mallory Voltmaster Fleet Coil which looks like it.
https://picclick.com/Vintage-Street-...741933684.html

This is likely the same one.
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/VINTAGE-STRE...-/370741933684
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Old 08-14-2021, 10:37 AM   #15
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That has to be it, although marked 6V it is of the same appearance. And I did not pickup on the MALLORY LOGO on the coil strap ... (short eyeballs) ...

THANX! for finding that ...
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Old 08-14-2021, 04:49 PM   #16
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That has to be a period aftermarket performance coil, such as MALLORY. I bet someone over at the H.A.M.B. could ID it.
It's a Mallory 6000 or 12000 depending on the voltage. It's on ebay at this link.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28411696336...AAAOSw5T5f2SQr

I'm thinking the logo was some hanky panky trying to fool a judge or a tech inspector at some point in the coils previous life.

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Old 08-14-2021, 04:54 PM   #17
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Finally got a photo to stick.
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THANX! for the update ...
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Excellent detective work!
I knew I could count on you guys
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