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Old 01-15-2023, 10:13 AM   #1
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Default New model A U-joints

Hello,

Model A u-joints seem to be back order ?
Anyone know a source?

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Old 01-15-2023, 10:22 AM   #2
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Careful what you buy as a lot of the previous available U Joints would not fit in the clamshell of model A's.
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:59 AM   #3
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Old 01-15-2023, 11:47 AM   #4
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The one on the left is the problem one.
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Old 01-15-2023, 02:22 PM   #5
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This is another example of why we will miss Macs/Eklers/Specialized. They were the supplier manufacturing the reproduction rebuild kits that allowed you to rebuild an original U-Joint.
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Old 01-15-2023, 02:48 PM   #6
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Brent,
I always appreciate your posts but in this case the last U joint I got that didn't fit was from Macs / Eklers
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Old 01-15-2023, 04:39 PM   #7
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This is another example of why we will miss Macs/Eklers/Specialized. They were the supplier manufacturing the reproduction rebuild kits that allowed you to rebuild an original U-Joint.
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Brent,
I always appreciate your posts but in this case the last U joint I got that didn't fit was from Macs / Eklers
I understand what you are suggesting totally about buying/using the repro U-Joint ...and I agree with you 110% however what I was trying to imply was they were the sole supplier of the rebuild kits which we were using to rebuild original Universal Joints.


FWIW, I have made several of the repro joints work after about 30 minutes in the lathe. Not sure if the backorder is due to re-tooling or just supply chain delays.
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Old 01-15-2023, 07:41 PM   #8
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I was not aware you could rebuild the original. The fact they are riveted together and never seeing a kit coupled with hearing and seeing articles that they were not rebuild able sure reinforced that to me. Did that kit come with new rivets
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:17 PM   #9
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I have (2) 1948 Lincoln needle bearing U joints I will sell. I paid $100 plus shipping each for them and that’s what I will sell them for. 1948 was the last year that Lincoln used a torque tube and for that one year they used a needle bearing U joint. They WILL fit in the clamshell. They are not new but they are in as new condition.
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Old 01-15-2023, 09:00 PM   #10
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Not all join's were riveted.
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Old 01-16-2023, 04:42 PM   #11
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I rebuilt one years ago by removing the rivets and replacing them with high tensile bolts. It is still working well.
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As if on cue, this fellow is selling some:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322418
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Old 01-17-2023, 09:28 AM   #13
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Try Bert's in Denver. They probably have a good used one or a rebuilt one. They are a wonderful parts source.
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Old 01-18-2023, 09:59 AM   #14
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The U-joint on the left is a Ford original Model "A" U-joint and it is not rebuildable. The Spicer U-joint in the middle replaced the one on the left for service, it is rebuildable, and it is a far better design. The photo on the right is the rebuild kit for the Spicer U-joint.
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The U-joint on the left is a Ford original Model "A" U-joint and ...is not rebuildable. The Spicer U-joint in the middle replaced the one on the left for service, it is rebuildable, and it is a far better design. The photo on the right is the rebuild kit for the Spicer U-joint.
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Terry, I know that you have probably forgotten more about Model As then I will ever know. That said however, you are rude, condescending, and just plain not a nice person. I know some 8 year olds like that,
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Bob, I really appreciate the good advice that you provide and the fact that you frequently provide pictures and other attachments to help explain what you are trying to convey. Continue to fly with the eagles and don’t let the vultures get you down.
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Terry, I know that you have probably forgotten more about Model As then I will ever know. That said however, you are rude, condescending, and just plain not a nice person. I know some 8 year olds like that,
Is Brent wrong? "Synchro909" above even mentioned he rebuilt the early, riveted style.

I think correcting the spread of misinformation is better than the perception of one's behavior in a response. The early, riveted style can in fact be rebuilt.
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Is Brent wrong? "Synchro909" above even mentioned he rebuilt the early, riveted style.

I think correcting the spread of misinformation is better than the perception of one's behavior in a response. The early, riveted style can in fact be rebuilt.
Yes, I rebuilt one. I have said here many times that you guys don't know how good you have it. The supply of parts here was nothing like what you have so we had to fix things that are in all reality, past it. When I did the universal joint, I could not lay my hands on a decent replacement so I had no option. It worked out OK but not worth the effort. I wouldn't do it again. It wasn't easy.
Repairable? Yes. Economically worthwhile? No.
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Terry, I know that you have probably forgotten more about Model As then I will ever know. That said however, you are rude, condescending, and just plain not a nice person. I know some 8 year olds like that,
Well I am unsure what brought this on as I sure did/do not see where I was rude to anyone however please accept my public apologies if you felt I was rude or condescending towards you. You are welcome to PM me if you feel this is not acceptable and I will work towards making it right with you off-line and not disrupt someone else's post with this. BTW, Bob and I are social media friends and have a good relationship outside of Fordbarn. I definitely was not being those things you described, ...but again you don't know me outside of judging me off of what you perceive me to be.
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