Adjusting an easy steer

[Chuck Sea/Tac]

My friend, against my protest and advise, bought an easy steer a few years ago. It's got about 4" s of play now. I see there is a screw with Allen head inset and locking nut. I'm assuming that is the adjustment? Anyone know for sure, or better yet have the instructions? I don't want to start turning things until I understand what they do . Tia

[Charlie Stephens]

You should also post on your question on HAMB. I assume you are talking about the EZ Steer that John Kovar sells? I don't have any personal experience with the unit but suggest you search the archives.

Charlie Stephens

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Chuck Sea/Tac

.My friend, against my protest and advise, bought an easy steer a few years ago It's got about 4" s of play now. I see there is a screw with Allen head inset and locking nut. I'm assuming that is the adjustment? Anyone know for sure, or better yet have the instructions? I don't want to start turning things until I understand what they do . Tia

Sometimes you have to wonder why we even try to offer advice.
My head is getting sore from beating it against the wall.

[J Franklin]

Yes Tom I sometimes agree. The original paperwork says to have the manufacturer adjust the box, something about warranty. If it is not warranted go ahead and play with it, you probably can't make it much worse.

[J Franklin]

A lot of good model a boxes that can be rebuilt are available with a bit of looking if you can't get things working better.

[jw hash]

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Chuck
when Richard Erwin won the easy steer up in BC. we put it in his coupe. the biggest problem we ran into was, the box would not center correctly so we put in an adjustable drag link. that took care of the excess play. you might ask Johnny how it is working for him.

[Chuck Sea/Tac]

Are you going to the evergreen picnic tomorrow.? It's Dave Severson's coupe, and he planning on driving it. I'm sure johnny will be there.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Chuck Sea/Tac

My friend, against my protest and advise, bought an easy steer a few years ago. It's got about 4" s of play now. I see there is a screw with Allen head inset and locking nut. I'm assuming that is the adjustment? Anyone know for sure, or better yet have the instructions? I don't want to start turning things until I understand what they do . Tia

It appears that your friend does not value your advice. Working on this POS will only strain your friendship. If it was easy to adjust and worked well, information would be easy to find. I know it will sound harsh but I would tell him there is nothing you can do.

The EZ-steer web site says;

"Note: The E-Z Steer Boxes are adjusted and sealed before it leaves our shop. If this seal is broken, the guarantee is void! If you even think you have a problem, please give us a call first. Do not disassemble the box in any way before calling us first! Keep your shipping box just in case."

But if you insist on working on it, you will have to open it up and put shims to tighten up the mesh.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

You should also post on your question on HAMB. I assume you are talking about the EZ Steer that John Kovar sells? I don't have any personal experience with the unit but suggest you search the archives.

Charlie Stephens

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...er&o=relevance

[CarlG]

John Kovar's warranty is not worth the paper it's written on. Lifetime to him must mean the lifetime of a particular mosquito. Gave up even trying to make contact him when he refused to return any of my calls. Chalked it up to lesson learned.

While his concept is a good one his engineering, machine work and business ethics are truly a POS.

[Dodge]

Chock it up to experience and throw it away and buy one of Randy Gross's boxes.

[SuperDave]

Originally Posted by dodge

chock it up to experience and throw it away and buy one of randy gross's boxes.

ditto!

[kenparker]

They have no adjustment.
Bought one of those thangs several years ago. Had the same problem everyone else has. No adjustment and bad warranty.

My solution was take it to my local friend who is a machinist and hope for a fix. He discovered the thrust surface - opposite the "adjusting screw" was never machined. In other words the trust was pushing against rough cast surface on the inside. As the rough cast surface wears the slop gets worse and mo worser. Paul, machinist, disassembled it and using his mill machined the rough surface on the inside and supplied a thin thrust washer. Problem solved. Unit is now in my blue coupe and only has about 3/4" free play in the center poxition. ken

[Mel Gross]

I have taken apart many EZ Steer boxes that have been provided to me by people who have changed over to our F100 steering boxes. Most of them had a very rough thrust surface facing (as Ken said above) and other issues. Even the adjustment system on them leaves a lot of room for improvement. The EZ Steer adjustment system is done with thrust washers (wavy washers) and an adjustment screw that pushes only. A F100 steering box adjustment system does not use a thrust set-up but rather the adjusting screw pushes and pulls. I have tried to fix a couple of the EZ Steer boxes but the fix is somewhat expensive. I do take some EZ Steer boxes in on trade towards the purchase of one of our boxes as some of the internal parts are the same as that of the F100 box. This depends on the condition and wear of the EZ Steer box.

If you want advise on how to adjust one, then call me and I will walk you thru the process. No guarantee that the adjustment will work as conditions inside will determine that.

Randy Gross
[email protected]
714-292-8660

[zzlegend]

Thanks for posting on this subject, Randy. Guess the word still has not got around to people about John's EZ steer boxes.
By the way,,,,,,,,,,,my brakes are working great. Thanks again and hope to see at the Chatsworth SM. Mark.

[pgerhardt]

Originally Posted by Dodge

Chock it up to experience and throw it away and buy one of Randy Gross's boxes.

X2! With Randy's box steering is precise and tight. A tiny movement of the steering wheel results in a tiny movement of the front wheel - zero slop!
It (along with a rebuilt front end) gives you the confidence the actually have fun driving your A through the turns. Add a little power in a turn and she responds just as you would expect!

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by zzlegend

Thanks for posting on this subject, Randy. Guess the word still has not got around to people about John's EZ steer boxes.

Model A times gave it a glowing review. Maybe they need to take another look at it or at least ask that the review be taken down from the site. A lot of people trust Model a Times.