1935 Ford spare tire cover info needed

[danliveshere]

Thanks Don. Looks like I will have to do the 600-16 spare trick like 35 ragtop!!

[1 Raggedy Ride]

Don and everyone.....yesterday I was looking in my entitled book, "The V8 Affair", and in the back, where the specifications are, listed under Tires,...1935 / 6.00x16 4ply / Station Wagon 6.00x16" 6 ply / optional starting 1936 Oversize: 6.50x16" / for extra road clearance: 6.00x18" both 4 & 6 ply............So.....it appears that there might be more than two??? I've have a friend with a '37 station wagon I'll check with......Thanks to All..........

[1 Raggedy Ride]

Hay Chuck, you and Barnfind have some good ideas.....I'll keep them in mind.......Thank you both.....

[Don Rogers]

Dan and Raggerty Ride, don't give up yet. I should have been more clear on my posting of the 1935 tire band (outer ring ) It was from a drawing of the 48-1395-B cover assembly for 600-16 tires. In 1935, there was also a cover assembly for 650-16 tires. It had part #48-1395-C. I do not have a copy of that drawing showing dimensions of outer ring. I will put that on my list for my next visit to the Ford Archives.

[David J]

This isn't rocket science here folks . 32 = 5" 33-34 = 5 1/4" . That leaves 5 1/2" & 5 3/4" unspoken for . All four of these sizes are around and with two spoken for already the last two sizes shouldn't be that hard to place . Also remember this part was probably outsourced and other MFRS used them also . I have a beautiful 33 band with stainless BUT it is dark blue and is 5 3/4" wide . Simply put it is NOT FORD .

Originally Posted by David J

The 5 1/4" one is 33-34 . Does it have a stainless band around it's outer center bead ? If yes it's 33 and if it is just the raised bead it's 34 .

[Barn Junk]

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Originally Posted by David J

This isn't rocket science here folks . 32 = 6" 33-34 = 6 1/4" . That leaves 6 1/2" & 6 3/4" unspoken for . All four of these sizes are around and with two spoken for already the last two sizes shouldn't be that hard to place . Also remember this part was probably outsourced and other MFRS used them also . I have a beautiful 33 band with stainless BUT it is dark blue and is 6 3/4" wide . Simply put it is NOT FORD .

Does the 34 have the same raised, approx 5/8" wide raised center bead or is it like the 35-6, approx 1 1/18" wide bead? In other words, can you remove the stainless, weld up the holes and duplicate a 34? I asked a rocket science friend of mine and he couldn't figure it out either. He did say he would get on it if they decide to put an old Ford into orbit. lol

[David J]

To me 34's look just like 35's only they are narrower . The 33 band is NOT the same as the bead is much narrower . 34 beads are like 35-36

Originally Posted by Barn Junk

Does the 34 have the same raised, approx 5/8" wide raised center bead or is it like the 35-6, approx 1 1/18" wide bead? In other words, can you remove the stainless, weld up the holes and duplicate a 34? I asked a rocket science friend of mine and he couldn't figure it out either. He did say he would get on it if they decide to put an old Ford into orbit. lol

[jfcrash]

I have to make a huge correction and a bigger apology to post #14 above … I miss read my tape measure.....


For my 1935 600-16….band that did not fit had a width of 5 ¼” (not the 6 ¼” I had stated) and the band that does fit and comes over the cover and holds it in place has a width of 5 5/8+” (not the 6 5/8”I had stated).

Don Rogers drawing prompted me to recheck ….what I was saying.


In my case, I had two sets of covers and rings and just painted the wrong set first...


Jim

[David J]

Ditto here as I just followed this lead without bothering to check . I replaced the 6's with 5's in my previous posts . Fact still remains the even , 1/4 , 1/2 & 3/4 part is the decider and as has been noted they don't interchange well .

Originally Posted by jfcrash

I have to make a huge correction and a bigger apology to post #14 above … I miss read my tape measure.....


For my 1935 600-16….band that did not fit had a width of 5 ¼” (not the 6 ¼” I had stated) and the band that does fit and comes over the cover and holds it in place has a width of 5 5/8+” (not the 6 5/8”I had stated).

Don Rogers drawing prompted me to recheck ….what I was saying.


In my case, I had two sets of covers and rings and just painted the wrong set first...


Jim

[Barn Junk]

Originally Posted by David J

To me 34's look just like 35's only they are narrower . The 33 band is NOT the same as the bead is much narrower . 34 beads are like 35-36

That has always been my experience also on the beads. I have never had a wide bead ring that is narrower than 5 1/2" and the two 5 1/2" ones I have, are what I put on/with my 34 cars. The 5 1/2 ones fit nice on a 5:25/5:50X17 even tho they may be incorrect for a 34 Ford. Definitely 5 3/4 for 35 and 36.

[1 Raggedy Ride]

To All, I was looking in the book entitled "The V8 Affair", and in the tire specifications, it reads: Starting 1935 - 85 H.P. (except Station Wagon) 6.00x16" 4 plies / Starting 1935 Station wagon 6.00x16" 6 plies / OPTIONAL Starting 1936 OVERSIZE 6.50x16" 6 plies ????????

[David J]

Yes on the 5 1/2" 33-34 band width . And yes they fit well . The skinny 33 one actually fits the worst . It doesn't come down the side of the cover as far . After being a boof on this I actually went wandering with a tape and the only skinny one here is the 33 I checked a while back . The spec posted by Don Rogers seems much more believable now . These things are all over the board . Range seems to be 5 5/16" to 5 13/16" and inconsistent at that . One of the 5 13/16" wide ones is 33 style , dark blue and is a dead on match for a Ford band . I always thought it was off brand due to it's width . Not so sure anymore on thatttun . Anyone have a gennie 36 to check ? If yes and if possible check several spots as these aren't very consistent . Even if in excellent condition . And sorry to the OP as you asked about 35"s . Pretty sure we narrowed it some though . David J

Originally Posted by Barn Junk

That has always been my experience also on the beads. I have never had a wide bead ring that is narrower than 5 1/2" and the two 5 1/2" ones I have, are what I put on/with my 34 cars. The 5 1/2 ones fit nice on a 5:25/5:50X17 even tho they may be incorrect for a 34 Ford. Definitely 5 3/4 for 35 and 36.

[1 Raggedy Ride]

Jim, thanks for the revised measurements......and I did check with my friend....'37 station wagon has a 6.00 x 16" and is band width is 5 1/2"....