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Old 04-06-2020, 03:42 PM   #9
Bored&Stroked
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Default Re: Firestone Air Balloon Wheels and Hubcaps

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Yes Dale, They are attractive wheels. They have one fault; as you're well aware, wire wheels, to be mounted correctly, need to have that outer back portion firmly located against the appropriate portion of the brakedrum. These Firestone wheels don't mount properly; that outer portion is located about 1/8" off the drum. Consequently, the lugholes end up taking all the stresses, and ultimately crack. Now that you're aware of that, you can devise some method to prevent this happening.
Hey Brian, just wanted to thank you for reminding me about this issue - had known about it for years, but it had slipped my mind (I had typically ran Ford wire wheels on other cars). You "got me to thinking" . . . So - I did a couple things today:

1) I checked the bent-spoke, adjustable wire wheels that are actually on the car and thought to myself . . . "Hmmmm - they were on the car when I pulled it out of that garage - wonder if they fit correctly???". The original builder of the car "Earl" built it in the late 30's to early 40's, were probably a pretty "cool wheel" at the time . . . but truthfully, they never could have fit correctly.

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Well, sure as heck, they are the SAME as the Firestones (probably made by Kelsey as well) - with the same 1/8 - 3/16" gap between the mounting surface and my later drums. I also checked against the original 32 drums (that were on the car) - they have a gap as well, though maybe not quite as much. (Need to 'clay' the drums and get a precise measurement)

2) Given that BOTH sets of wheels have the issue, I pondered how to "fix" them to correctly mount as they should (on an Early Ford). The only easy way to do this is to create a steel "ring" that will have 3 tabs that fit down inside the wheel and I'll put a small TIG tack weld to hold them in. These rings will be the diameter of the wheel mounting surface, about 1/4" wide and 1/8" thick or so . . . and will "fill the gap" between the wheel mounting surface and the drum surface.

I will design them in CAD and have them laser cut - pretty easy job actually. Anyway, wanted to thank you for bringing this up, because I know I would NOT have pondered it . . . has been too long since I thought about the issue.

Take care!
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