[thom]

Thanks, one problem I have is limited use and feeling in my left hand, especially the thumb as a result of almost cutting my thumb off a few months ago. Thankfully I am right handed but still need that left hand for some jobs. I think I will look into getting a clamp of some kind tomorrow, maybe something that will work better than my small long nose vice grip pliers to hold the lifters. Guess I'll hit Harbor Fright and see what they have.