[pistonbroke]

OK, here we go. First of all they both appear to be 1938's . I say this do to the louvers on the nose. How ever, the the one tail light Bessel shown is a 39. As for value, not much. If the motors aren't stuck and don't have water in the oil $2500 each unless they have Columbia rear axels (which is common in these cars) in which case you would tack on another $3000. This would also be assuming the interior's are at least complete. Tim