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Ya, guess I just need to go with the stitch and grind welds. I like to hammer the welds and not grind, but it is almost a two man operation. You have to have somewhere to put to torch and/or turn it off about every inch or even less. And you have to move fairly quickly. At one time had my kids and later my grandkids help me and it worked well. Just not good at it old and by myself, LOL. I do like the hammer weld though and it also help with the shrinking of the metal some.