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Gary WA 01-27-2013 05:32 PM

generator not lineing up
 

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gen not in line with crank pulley??

Charlie Stephens 01-27-2013 06:56 PM

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Any chance you have a timing cover from a 1933-34? They move the generator back to allow for the slope of the radiator in the later vehicles. You can see a picture of one in my old ad: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ens#post475242
How is the alignment at the water pump and is it a model A pump? If you have the correct 4 bolt Model A water pump and it lines up with the generator then the problem is with the front pulley. Any chance something is keeping the pulley from going all of the way in?

Charlie Stephens

Gary WA 01-27-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 579874)
Any chance you have a timing cover from a 1933-34? They move the generator back to allow for the slope of the radiator in the later vehicles. You can see a picture of one in my old ad: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ens#post475242
How is the alignment at the water pump and is it a model A pump? If you have the correct 4 bolt Model A water pump and it lines up with the generator then the problem is with the front pulley. Any chance something is keeping the pulley from going all of the way in?

Charlie Stephens

It's the correct timing cover. model A pump, The pump and the crank pulley line up OK:confused:

Tom Wesenberg 01-27-2013 08:46 PM

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I just used a dividers to measure the center of the V on my crank pulley to the front timing cover lip for the front motor mount and I get 1 3/32". All 3 of my pulleys line up nicely.

Fred K-OR 01-27-2013 09:17 PM

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What did you do to get in this predicament? In otherwords-just putting back together, replaced generator or ???????

jkeesey 01-27-2013 09:34 PM

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I just reinstalled one the other day that had spacers on both side of the engine flange where the generator slipped on. Did yours by any chance have these?

Charlie Stephens 01-27-2013 09:57 PM

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What was the last thing you did before the problem appeared? My guess would be that there is something keeping the front pulley from going all the way in. Do you have a two piece pulley?

Charlie Stephens

spike 01-27-2013 10:03 PM

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do you have the generator mounting bracket on backwards? It can go eather way buy only line up the correct way...just a thought

Gary WA 01-27-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 580018)
What was the last thing you did before the problem appeared? My guess would be that there is something keeping the front pulley from going all the way in. Do you have a two piece pulley?

Charlie Stephens

Yes two piece pulley.I put new front motor mount springs on due due the fact I couldn't get my hand crank lined up. Been driving it and heard a metal rubbing sound started looking in that area and noticed when the motor running there was a wobble in the fan belt and discovered the pulley's not being lined up?:rolleyes:

Gary WA 01-27-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spike (Post 580021)
do you have the generator mounting bracket on backwards? It can go eather way buy only line up the correct way...just a thought

How you doing spike long time no hear? all 3 of my A's are 1930 the other two seem to line up; strange?:rolleyes:

Gary WA 01-27-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jkeesey (Post 579989)
I just reinstalled one the other day that had spacers on both side of the engine flange where the generator slipped on. Did yours by any chance have these?

NO:confused:

spike 01-28-2013 12:55 AM

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gary...doing ok at this end buddy....love ur trucks.....how long have you been driving this with it misaligned? It has to be eather the front cover or the mounting brackets on the generator. If soneone has rebuilt the generator it is easy to get the bracket on the wrong way.....let us know what you find out...the best to ya bud..

Tom Wesenberg 01-28-2013 04:45 AM

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Back to the picture in #1, is the pulley not lined up, or is the steel yardstick running crooked due to a crank pulley wobble? Turn the crank 180* and see if the yardstick still shows the same gap to the generator. Also measure as I did in #4 if the pulley doesn't show wobble. If the pulley shows wobble then that needs to be corrected first.

BTW, my temporary engine also has a two piece pulley, and that's why I gave a measurement from the center of the V rather than the easier to measure rear edge of the crank pulley.

Rusty Homestead Fl 01-28-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary WA (Post 580074)
How you doing spike long time no hear? all 3 of my A's are 1930 the other two seem to line up; strange?:rolleyes:


Gary
Since you have two other A's have you tried swapping generators with one of them? That would tell you if it's the generator or not.

Gary WA 01-28-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Homestead Fl (Post 580246)
Gary
Since you have two other A's have you tried swapping generators with one of them? That would tell you if it's the generator or not.

Not yet!:confused:Took various measurements as Tom suggested and all seem to be the same. Thanks.

Gary WA 01-28-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 580120)
Back to the picture in #1, is the pulley not lined up, or is the steel yardstick running crooked due to a crank pulley wobble? Turn the crank 180* and see if the yardstick still shows the same gap to the generator. Also measure as I did in #4 if the pulley doesn't show wobble. If the pulley shows wobble then that needs to be corrected first.

BTW, my temporary engine also has a two piece pulley, and that's why I gave a measurement from the center of the V rather than the easier to measure rear edge of the crank pulley.

Back on it will check that out Measured last nite and exactly 1 3/32" My ccpu is about 1 2/32" very close.

Gary WA 01-28-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Homestead Fl (Post 580246)
Gary
Since you have two other A's have you tried swapping generators with one of them? That would tell you if it's the generator or not.

No but I did look at the gen brackets and they are on all 3 the same way so I'd say not the bracket.:rolleyes:

Greg out west 01-28-2013 04:58 PM

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Hi Gary


Could it be some of the part's got switch as shown in the April 30 service bulletin's...different pulley with the different armature shalf's ???


Greg out West

Tom Wesenberg 01-28-2013 07:38 PM

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If you stand right in line with the V belt, how does it look?
I'm still wondering if the crank pulley has a bend or something keeping it from seating fully?

Gary WA 01-28-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 580624)
If you stand right in line with the V belt, how does it look?
I'm still wondering if the crank pulley has a bend or something keeping it from seating fully?

Removed the pulley compared to others I have looks OK. the belt does wobble and you do notice the offset. Here are some more pics. rotated 180 same look.


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