Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

Does anyone know if there is a chart or cross-reference for standard parts numbers for Model A transmission and throw-out bearings? I'd like to be able to go to my local bearing supplier and just buy OTC.

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

The bearing supplier can cross them.

Bob

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

But he or she will need something besides the description, no? I can't just go in and say, I want all the bearings for a 1929 Ford 3-speed tranny. At least, I don't think I can. I guess I could try. :)

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

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Motorcraft DC-1 Condenser
Motorcraft DP104 Point Set
Points CS30 Echlin (original style)
Points CS751 Echlin (new Ford style)
Condenser FA5 Echlin
Rotor FA3 Echlin

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Electrical:
Motorcraft DC-1 Condenser
Motorcraft DP104 Point Set
Points CS30 Echlin (original style)
Points CS751 Echlin (new Ford style)
Condenser FA5 Echlin
Rotor FA3 Echlin
Condenser-Mallory Dist MA3 Echlin
Starter Brushes F502 Echlin
Spark Plug 561 Champion (Wl6Y)
Spark Plug 3X Champion (avail on special order)
Coil (6 volt) IC9 Echlin
Coil (12 volt) IC14 Echlin (w/built in resistor)
Generator Cutout CU1 Echlin
Alternator (12 volt) 71273SE OCA (one wire, internal regulator)
Battery (6 Vo1t) 7200 Exide
Battery (8 Volt) 8201 Exide
Battery (12 Volt) 843578 Exide
LED Lights
Tail light - http://www.unitedpacificind.com/storage/file10.pdf
Marker lamps - http://vehiclelight.com/clli.html
Light bulbs - http://www.superbrightleds.com
Bulbs
Taillight Bulb (6 volt) 63 GE
Stoplight Bulb (6 volt) 1129 GE
Taillight Bulb (12 volt) 89 GE
Stoplight Bulb (12 volt) 1073 GE

Rev A to above:
Useful Electrical Parts info for Model A
Points: Echlin CS30 (original style)
Echlin CS751 (New Ford style)
Echlin DP104 (Modern Style with modifed Upper and Lower Plate)
Motorcraft DP104
Condenser: Echlin FA5
Echlin DC-1 (Modern style)
Echlin MA3 (Mallory Distributor)
Rotor: Echlin FA3
Coil: Echlin IC9 6V
Echlin IC14 12V
Spark Plugs: Champion 3X (Original Style available from parts Houses)
W14 Colder Plug than W16 and Autolite 3076
W16Y Later Champion
W18Y Hotter Champion if W16Y burns black
TT10 Motorcraft

Starter Brushes: Echlin F502
Generator Cut Out Echlin CU1
Fan Belt: Napa 5L430 43"
Napa 5L440 44"
Resistor for horn Ohmite RKS2RO when using 6V horn on 12V

Conversion kit for GM 10SI and 12SI altenators to 1 wire
Quick Start SE-590


Engine:
Overhaul Gasket Set FS800C Victor
Head Gasket Set HS800C Victor
Intake/Exhaust Gasket MS9800 Victor
Head Gasket 800C Victor
Valve (Intake & Exhaust) 211-1558 NAPA Engine
Valve Spring 212-1001 NAPA Engine
Valve Seat Insert (Int) 218-8535 NAPA Engine
Valve Seat Insert (Exh) 218-7535 NAPA Engine
Piston (Std) 224-2625 NAPA Engine (also avail. .080 over)
Piston Pin Bushing 223-3316 NAPA Engine
Cylinder Repair Sleeve 226-8024 NAPA Engine
Piston Ring Set (std) 506 Perfect Circle
K&N Air Filters: To fit Air Maze filter kits suppplied by Model A part's vendors: Part E-9257, Round Air Filter, Height: 5.5 in (140 mm), Inside Diameter: 2 in (51 mm), Outside Diameter: 3.5 in (89 mm)
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Drive Train:
Clutch Disk R604 Rayloc
Pressure Plate CA1524 Rayloc
Clutch Pilot Bearing 6203-2RSJ NAPA Bearing
Clutch Release Bearing N1087 NAPA Bearing
Clutch Alignment Tool 675-1626 Balkamp

Wheels:
Front Wheel Inner Bearing 15118 Timken
Front Wheel Inner Race 15250X Timken
Front Wheel Outer Bearing 9074 Timken
Front Wheel Outer Race 9196 Timken

Miscellaneous:
Gas Cap for 30-31 703-1020 Balkamp
Fan Belt 25-20426 NAPA Belts & Hoses (also try NAPA #5L430 or 5L440 which is 1" longer) Consider an industrial cog belt if you have a generator as it will fit around the smaller pully better - TR22425)
Fuel Filter Gasket 730-9510 Balkamp (for glass bowl 30-31)
Radiator Hose (1-3/4') 611 NAPA Belts & Hose
Radiator Hose- (2") 613 NAPA Belts & Hose
Spare Tire Lock 770-2441 Balkamp

Bearings (Courtesy of www.jmodlea.coffeecup.com):

PINION BEARINGS [799000Series]
Cone (2 used) Ford Number B4211 – Bearing Number 28156 [799085]
Pinion Double Cup Ford Number B4616 – Bearing Number 28314D, 28314XD [799086]

DIFFERENTIAL BEARINGS
Cone Ford Number B4221 – Bearing Number 28156 [799085]
Cup Ford Number B4616 – Bearing Number 28317 [799087]

MISC. BEARINGS {Ford Number}
GENERATOR SHAFT BEARING(FRONT) {A10093} - 6203 2RS

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

I have some information on my site...

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

All you need is the Ford part numbers that they can look up in a bearing interchange.

Bob

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

Very useful info Mitch! Thanks for posting. I copied & pasted to Word for future reference!

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

I did the same before I even read your post because the correct parts are very hard to find here in Mexico. This will help some!

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

Thank you all. This is just what I need.

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

Found this great site for finding cross referenced parts.

http://www.autopartoo.com/oem/timken/22168timken.html

Just put your part number into the search window and it will spit out a bunch of part numbers from other manufacturers.

One warning though; for numbers like 68 1225-A, for example, show as 681225A. The numbers it spits out may be minus a space or hyphen also, but the web sorts most of that out when you do a search for a part number.

Surprisingly GM, Studebaker, Chrysler, Fiat, and others used a lot of the same parts under different part numbers.

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

Also, Jim Mason had a complete Model A bearing and seal Xref list on his old site. I am not sure whether that still exists.
That list and some supplemental Ford stuff also exist on the HAMB in several forms...might be a difficult search.
Trans bearing information is also on Vince's Model A Garage site, with a LOT of other good information.

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

The problem I have had, ...and wonder if others have found this to be true is, most NAPA and mass-merchandiser parts houses cannot sell these items as cheaply as what the Snyders, Brattons, et/al seemingly can. Has anyone else tried pricing them in their locale??

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

Yep. I found the same thing here. Costs more (about 20%!) from a local shop than from a Model A supplier. I went back to Bratton's.

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

The main shaft bearing #A7065 is 1-114119 SKF, 1 Side sealed 208SZ SKF and 1306 Federal. Counter shaft bearing short and Main drive gear bearing A7118-A is 24780 Timken, F93324 SKF, J24-1256 RHC, 93328 Hyatt, and J-24-1248 BCA Federal Mogal. Counter Shaft bearing long #A7121 is 94216 Hyatt, J201632 Bowers and J-24-1256 BCA Federal Mogal. Transmission Main Drive Gear Bearing #A7025 is 306P Timken, 1-114118 SKF, 1 side seald 306SZ SKF and 3208 ND

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

Also another problem I have found with bearings is even if you give them the Timken number that is no gaurantee you are going to get a Timken bearing. Most model A suppliers you can just about gaurantee you are going to get a genuine Timken bearing, not just whatever brand they send you based on parts interchange. Rod

Re: Standard bearing parts numbers?
 

I found the same thing as Brent, and since I usually need other parts I put them all on one order to save a bit on shipping.