The Ford Barn

The Ford Barn (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/index.php)
-   Early V8 (1932-53) (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4)
-   -   KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356183)

40larry 03-09-2026 11:15 AM

KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

My friend Scott lost everything he owned in the Altadena fires last year. I am trying to return his KRW tools to working condition. Those tools which have acme threaded parts are literally welded and refuse to budge. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get these parts moving again ?


40larry

KiWinUS 03-09-2026 11:23 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Larry get some “Howes Penatrant”. Not aerosol it’s challenging to find and used to be a Mac Tools exclusive item but I believe now available through Amazon. Amazing stuff. Have freed many galled up bolts in both steel and aluminum. Good luck.

John Gibson 03-09-2026 01:48 PM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Available on Amazon and here is the manufactures web page:

https://howesproducts.com/products/m...d968093f457bf0

The Art Doctor 03-09-2026 07:40 PM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

If all else fails, fire locked them up I bet fire would loosen them up as well. I'd pull out the torch and try and turn while hot.

19Fordy 03-09-2026 07:41 PM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Gosh, hope you are able to save some of those tools and that your friend Scott was able to get a building permit.

Tim Ayers 03-09-2026 08:36 PM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Liquid products do certainly work, but I got an induction heater bolt buster tool a few years back and now my torches collect dust for these jobs.

I got the Bolt Buster brand and have yet had it fail getting things unstuck. Unbelievably useful tool.

cas3 03-09-2026 11:32 PM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

First thing I would do is soak them in a barrel of molasses. Its really cheap, lasts all summer (does not wear out, like evaporust, which is really good but very expensive), you buy a bag at the farm store, its horse feed.

Dump a 25lb bag in a 55 gallon drum, or kids pool full of water and soak them for weeks.
This will be only the first step, get the surface rust off and certainly other more drastic methods will be required to get things loose. Again, its cheap and lasts all summer.

Folks in a mild climate should always have a batch to dunk old parts into out behind the shop.

big deuce 03-09-2026 11:58 PM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

I've gotten seized, rusted bolt threads moving again with a propane torch and wax from a candle...

tubman 03-10-2026 12:26 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 2441610)
First thing I would do is soak them in a barrel of molasses. Its really cheap, lasts all summer (does not wear out, like evaporust, which is really good but very expensive), you buy a bag at the farm store, its horse feed.

Dump a 25lb bag in a 55 gallon drum, or kids pool full of water and soak them for weeks.
This will be only the first step, get the surface rust off and certainly other more drastic methods will be required to get things loose. Again, its cheap and lasts all summer.

Folks in a mild climate should always have a batch to dunk old parts into out behind the shop.

Be careful with molasses. It does work, but that is because it's an acid; weak, but still an acid. If you use it, watch the items carefully so you don't leave them to long. Be especially careful with machined surfaces, as it can have an odd effect on them at times. The latest thing for cheap rust removal is citric acid. There are several threads on the H.A.M.B. about it, and it seems that it can be almost as good as Evaporust when combined with certain other inexpensive chemicals. You might want to check over there.

ford38v8 03-10-2026 04:06 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

There is an additional issue involved in the restoration: The fire will have annealed the tools, rendering them unsatisfactory for heavy duty. Perhaps someone here can advise on a heat treatment to restore the correct hardness.

Tim Ayers 03-10-2026 05:53 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 2441625)
There is an additional issue involved in the restoration: The fire will have annealed the tools, rendering them unsatisfactory for heavy duty. Perhaps someone here can advise on a heat treatment to restore the correct hardness.

Ah, interesting thought.

deuce5wndw 03-10-2026 07:32 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 2441625)
There is an additional issue involved in the restoration: The fire will have annealed the tools, rendering them unsatisfactory for heavy duty. Perhaps someone here can advise on a heat treatment to restore the correct hardness.

Very true! I had some transmissions that had gone through a fire, and the gears were all so soft a file would cut them.

40larry 03-10-2026 10:08 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

You are right. Getting a building permit has been going on for months !

ford38v8 03-10-2026 11:29 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40larry (Post 2441665)
You are right. Getting a building permit has been going on for months !

Larry, it would be a big help to us if when you respond back, identify who you are responding to.

KiWinUS 03-10-2026 11:35 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 2441681)
Larry, it would be a big help to us if when you respond back, identify who you are responding to.

Post #5. Too easy

40larry 03-11-2026 10:37 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Tony How do I post that I am responding to a thread number ?

Karl Wescott 03-11-2026 10:45 AM

Re: KRW Tools ... Post #17
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40larry (Post 2441826)
Tony How do I post that I am responding to a thread number ?


Option 1. On the lower right hand of the message box there is a button "Quote". Click on that.


Option 2. On the upper right hand of the message box there is a counter that numbers the posts (for example) "#16". You could edit the message title (as I have done) or use the post number in the body of your reply.

KiWinUS 03-11-2026 12:08 PM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40larry (Post 2441826)
Tony How do I post that I am responding to a thread number ?

Karl’s instructions are right on Larry.
Thanks Karl

40larry 03-12-2026 10:23 AM

Re: KRW Tools got destroyed in Los Angeles Fires
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2441845)
Karl’s instructions are right on Larry.
Thanks Karl




ok. I am using the quote button............................


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:33 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.