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Rudolph 01-10-2026 12:15 AM

More head gasket problems
 

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Hello on my 41 Mercury engine I got rebuilt at a shop, heads and block mechined, weeped coolent through the head gaskets fiber "best gasket copper sandwich gaskets" and I tried to fix it by fitting falpro gaskets witch fixed it but then I had a blowing head gasket probably from excessive use of copper spray? even when I was told not to.

Where I live on the other side of the world its hard and very
expensive to get things from the USA but I found a good suply of NOS asbestos gasket made for Ford by some American asbestos company, they look nice with rings around the water passages and steel fire rings. He says he sells heaps of them and they dont give any problems

Should I give them a light copper spray to help things? I refuse to grease them.

I put an old 1938 motor together that had a crack down the middel of the 3 water holes with fiber gaskets and copper spray and it was mint, it seems everyone has a way they like to do i, I just don't want to be cleaning off asbestos fiber mess from my engine a few days later.

I have seen some very ugly rough looking modern head gasket for flatheads and this includes the Fal-pro one size fits all 39-48 221" - 239" gaskets,

petehoovie 01-10-2026 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph (Post 2431656)
Hello on my 41 Mercury engine I got rebuilt at a shop, heads and block mechined, weeped coolent through the head gaskets fiber "best gasket copper sandwich gaskets" and I tried to fix it by fitting falpro gaskets witch fixed it but then I had a blowing head gasket probably from excessive use of copper spray? even when I was told not to.

Where I live on the other side of the world its hard and very
expensive to get things from the USA but I found a good suply of NOS asbestos gasket made for Ford by some American asbestos company, they look nice with rings around the water passages and steel fire rings. He says he sells heaps of them and they dont give any problems

Should I give them a light copper spray to help things? I refuse to grease them.

I put an old 1938 motor together that had a crack down the middel of the 3 water holes with fiber gaskets and copper spray and it was mint, it seems everyone has a way they like to do i, I just don't want to be cleaning off asbestos fiber mess from my engine a few days later.

I have seen some very ugly rough looking modern head gasket for flatheads and this includes the Fal-pro one size fits all 39-48 221" - 239" gaskets,

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1768020951

vincent 01-10-2026 05:05 AM

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2023 I had a normal aspirated flathead in my 34 and used Best gaskets - they were useless as the filler material "flows" out under the copper tin. Might have to do with use of aluminium heads on an iron engine. Look for Marts thread about Best gaskets, he had the same problem. 2024 onwards I used an engine with a Weiand blower and the french gaskets that look the same as yours. I just greased them on installation and retorqued a couple times. There is no movement anymore in the head bolts so this indicates that the combo of aluminium heads on an iron engine is doable with good gaskets and they even hold up to the extra pressure of a blower with up to 10 psi. So from now on I will only use grease on these gaskets - seems to work for me.

Ggmac 01-10-2026 07:06 AM

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They look like the gaskets Ive used with success. I spray silver paint on both sides, always have . It’s what my father taught me . Has not failed me yet . Many rebuilds in the last 10 yrs .
Those gaskets look like the ones in Speedways engine kits .

chap52 01-10-2026 07:28 AM

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I rub a thin coat of grease on them. seal good and if you have to open things up again you can carefully remove them and probably reuse them. Chap

big deuce 01-10-2026 10:49 AM

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Why do you refuse to use grease?

Bruce_MO 01-10-2026 12:35 PM

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Just a note that if the engine is bored 0.080” or more, you need to use an oversized gasket. Good luck

Rudolph 01-10-2026 01:55 PM

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Yes I saw Matt's video of the gasket, I could see they were squishing the fiber out and like he says there is no reinforcement in the fiber.

Why dont I use high temperature copper head gasket spray insted of silver paint?

I dont see what greasing them would do apart from create a void like excessive copper spray as well

Tim Ayers 01-10-2026 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph (Post 2431775)
Yes I saw Matt's video of the gasket, I could see they were squishing the fiber out and like he says there is no reinforcement in the fiber.

Why dont I use high temperature copper head gasket spray insted of silver paint?

I dont see what greasing them would do apart from create a void like excessive copper spray as well

That copper head gasket spray is a sealant and a glue. Silver paint, when the heads are applied with it still tacky, acts as the same but without the holding power of that copper spray.

As a test, spray two pieces of scrap metal with it and clamp them together. Once dries, pry them apart and see what's left.

I wouldn't use it on something you may need to take apart again sometime in the future.

Rudolph 01-10-2026 03:46 PM

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Is it good to use a sealant on asbestos gaskets? Is it necessary even? Isn't that the gaskets job?

I might just give it a thin coat ?

jimTN 01-10-2026 03:55 PM

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do both sides with copper coat and let dry for a while before tighting down. Works fine. If it does not dry some first it will leak.

deuce_roadster 01-11-2026 02:44 PM

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Ditch the copper and use the composite Best gaskets without grease or anything else. If your surfaces are true you won't have any problems.

Rudolph 01-13-2026 04:02 AM

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I just installed the Ford asbestos gaskets with copper spray and sprayed them like the cans instructions recommended

Seth Swoboda 01-16-2026 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce_roadster (Post 2432052)
Ditch the copper and use the composite Best gaskets without grease or anything else. If your surfaces are true you won't have any problems.


I've always used this gasket. The Best Gasket Graphtite gasket. I have never had a problem with them.

tubman 01-16-2026 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by deuce_roadster (Post 2432052)
Ditch the copper and use the composite Best gaskets without grease or anything else. If your surfaces are true you won't have any problems.

No, grease is probably not necessary, but I use it because it makes the reuse of the gasket more likely. I have re-used a lot of head gaskets successfully over the years, in Fords and other cars. These days, at almost $100 a crack, it's a real money saver.

Rudolph 01-25-2026 02:29 AM

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Took the heads to a shop and they had to take 3 thou off them to get them flat, that photo is the 1st grind, the low spots are around the places I was seeing weeping. Hope this fixes the problem

glennpm 01-25-2026 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph (Post 2434316)
Took the heads to a shop and they had to take 3 thou off them to get them flat, that photo is the 1st grind, the low spots are around the places I was seeing weeping. Hope this fixes the problem

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7&d=1769326024


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