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updraught 08-06-2025 07:28 AM

OT: The forklift company that went racing with a water pump
 

Made by the same guy as the Miller video. Seems well researched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWVQL-02hoI

Y-Blockhead 08-06-2025 10:24 AM

Re: OT: The forklift company that went racing with a water pump
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by updraught (Post 2404532)
Made by the same guy as the Miller video. Seems well researched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWVQL-02hoI

Thanks for sharing. I am a fan of Brian Lohnes' youtube videos. Very informative.

nkaminar 08-06-2025 11:17 AM

Re: OT: The forklift company that went racing with a water pump
 

Thanks. Interesting video. To put things in perceptive, 200 horsepower from a 1,500 cc engine would be about 650 horsepower out of a Model A engine. If I did my math correctly, a Model A engine is a little over 3.3 liters.

Synchro909 08-06-2025 06:17 PM

Re: OT: The forklift company that went racing with a water pump
 

I make it 440 hp from a Model A engine. 200 hp from 1,500 cc is 0.1333 hp per cc. The Model A engine is, as you say, 3,300 cc. 0.1333 X 3,300=440hp.
I doubt even a new Burtz would do that, let alone an original Model A engine. 133 hp per litre is one HOT engine. An original Model A engine gives 12.1 hp per litre.

nkaminar 08-07-2025 05:22 AM

Re: OT: The forklift company that went racing with a water pump
 

OK, I stand corrected. Thanks. 440 horsepower would chew up the Model A transmission and spit gears out the side of the case. Ditto the rear end.

updraught 08-07-2025 07:58 AM

Re: OT: The forklift company that went racing with a water pump
 

Most Holdens here were 6 cyl. Starting with the 138 and ending with the 202 ci or 3.3 litre. They were tough, with a seven bearing crank shaft, but not much breathing from the head.
A friend of mine, when i was about 18, was from a farm and going to uni and stock car racing on the weekend. He was a bad influence. Like, very bad. I ended up building eight engines trying to replicate his ability to modify heads. Never got close. We did have some good midnight races. He became the state champion later on.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/overste...eres-why-66897
The 202 was shoehorned into what was a UK Vauxhall, by local GMH engineers, and sent racing to great success. Against the Ford Falcon GTHOs V8's which were considered to be the fastest four door sedans in the world at the time.
About 300 odd hp, I think is considered fairly good for the time, and 400 in more recent times.

ModelA29 08-08-2025 11:32 AM

Re: OT: The forklift company that went racing with a water pump
 

GM was first to offer a street engine with 1 hp per cubic inch in their 283 with fuel injection.
Put a good OHC head and turbo or blower on a Burtz and I think you could produce 450+ hp. You won't get it using the stock A intake/exhaust ports. I also think you can't get enough lift out of a cam that will fit through the stock cam journal size.

Today most NA race engines are 2-2.5 hp per cuin. My 310" Cleveland is 650 hp with a single 4 bbl.

Ya gotta love a guy with a dyno in his backyard.
400 hp B engine naturally aspirated - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IejbsUzmVI0
part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dswKW6g6bo


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