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busmania 06-22-2025 08:59 AM

40 gas tank?
 

I have a drake (or carpenter, not sure but they are probably the same?) tank. It appears to be leaking pretty good where the neck attaches to the tank. This thing is basically new so I’m annoyed. Who makes a good tank? Anyone else have this leaking problem with their aftermarket tank?

19Fordy 06-22-2025 11:28 AM

Re: 40 gas tank?
 

If you have a MIG or TIG welder try welding it yourself.
https://metalfixes.com/how-to-weld-a-gas-tank/

OR

Send the tank to the vendor back and get a new one.
A Fordbarn SEARCH reveals this:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/searc...2&pp=25&page=2

I don't think the repro tanks are made to fit the OEM 40 Ford gas tank sending unit.

Kube 06-22-2025 11:34 AM

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Are you 100% certain the tank is leaking?
The design of these tanks made for common leaks at the filler tube rubber hose connection.
This is especially true if the tank was filled up all the way.

Before you remove the tank, do yourself a favor and track that leak down with certainty.

When I install a tank, I coat the rubber hose with Indian Head Shellac as directed on the bottle. Then I use modern clamps for a few days only replacing them with authentic clamps once the shellac has cured.

19Fordy 06-22-2025 12:21 PM

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"Kube's idea" is excellent. Perhaps it's just a "clamp leak". Double check to make sure.

glennpm 06-22-2025 12:23 PM

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With a repro tank you may not be concerned about using the original clamps. If the the leak is from the hose, most likely, then use two quality modern clamps spaced about 1/2" or so apart.

Glenn

busmania 06-22-2025 01:39 PM

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I figured it was the rubber hose from the filler tube to the tank as it was rubbing the inner fender metal so I also cut that back. So I replaced the rubber. It still leaked. So then I figured I screwed up the clamps. Nope, still leaks and here I am. I have already pulled the tank. It was easy because my trunk floor has been cut out. I plan to pressurize the tank and then spray the area I think it is with soapy water. Much like finding a hole in a tire. We will see. It almost looks like the neck wasn’t welded where it meets the tank behind a small strengthening piece of metal.

Oh, and after all this, the entire area around the filler neck rubber is dry so I do not think it’s coming from the hose part of it.

19Fordy 06-22-2025 05:30 PM

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Can you post a few photos of the tank and where its leaking?

fordyford 06-22-2025 06:54 PM

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19Fordy, welding on a gas tank that has had fuel in it is dangerous, Don't do it.

busmania 06-22-2025 08:48 PM

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Welp, I pressurized the tank and as suspected it seems to be coming from behind this support piece and under the filler neck. Not sure how I’d fix this….

Hard to see but you can see a couple giant bubbles forming in these photos. Next I’ll fill it with water and see if I can see for sure where it is leaking.

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petehoovie 06-22-2025 09:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by busmania (Post 2396367)
Welp, I pressurized the tank and as suspected it seems to be coming from behind this support piece and under the filler neck. Not sure how I’d fix this….

Hard to see but you can see a couple giant bubbles forming in these photos. Next I’ll fill it with water and see if I can see for sure where it is leaking.

Attachment 568619

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...9&d=1750643303

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1750643303

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1750643303

Newc 06-22-2025 11:18 PM

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That a 'Tanks' product? Drake mentions that area about his tanks, but 'tanks' have larger capacity. Newc

deuce lover 06-23-2025 02:56 AM

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Appears to be a Drake tank.Here is a pic of one currently listed on Ebay

19Fordy 06-23-2025 07:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fordyford (Post 2396350)
19Fordy, welding on a gas tank that has had fuel in it is dangerous, Don't do it.

Here's how to do it.
https://weldingtroop.com/is-it-safe-...d-a-fuel-tank/

busmania 06-23-2025 09:57 AM

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It is either Drake or Dennis Carpenter. I do not remember and will have to go back and look at the receipts. Does anyone know if they are the same Tank? Pictures on the websites sure make them look the same.

Newc 06-23-2025 10:23 AM

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Check capacity- different I think? newc

petehoovie 06-23-2025 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce lover (Post 2396395)
Appears to be a Drake tank.Here is a pic of one currently listed on Ebay

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1750665357

Kube 06-23-2025 10:29 AM

Re: 40 gas tank?
 

Man, oh man, this sucks.
I believe I would strongly consider cleaning this tank out thoroughly and applying a very good grade of sealer.

I always thought Drake's advertising was amusing. On one line it states they are "exactly as original" but then goes on to state they have a larger capacity than original and don't accept the authentic sending unit.
You know, exact only different.
I have had to use his tanks a few times and have been overall pleased. They are wider than the original as well. Oh yeah, "exact as original" only wider.
I have heard from numerous folks that they are nearly impossible to install w/o lifting the rear body or cutting the tank (flanges) shorter.

busmania 06-23-2025 05:59 PM

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Just looked. It was Dennis carpenter. I wonder if the drake tank is the same manufacture? I do t want to buy and have the same issues!

deuce lover 06-24-2025 06:06 AM

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In 2007 I replaced a rotten fuel tank in a 35 slantback tudor.I had no issues whatsoever with installing it.No lifting the body and it slipped in the chassis easily. I did this again in 2011 in a 36 5W and again no issues.Both were Drake tanks.I didn't care for the battleship gray color and paint them both black .

V8 Bob 06-24-2025 07:11 AM

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I prefer SS for a fuel tank, and had Rock Valley custom build the tanks in my '32 and '40. Not cheap, but NO issues.


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