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townsedan29 01-30-2025 08:30 AM

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Did the adjustable wrench use a straight slot shoulder screw (instead of the staked pin) to hold the knurled knob? other wise identical to the may 28 to end of production wrench would this work for judging? only the pin style is mentioned in the standards thank you

Joe K 01-30-2025 09:39 AM

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I have seen SEVERAL different wrenches of this form/style. About half of these were marked "Ford" in the usual manner.

To my knowledge nobody has done a "type study" or tried to correlate engineering changes of construction to car model years.

Since these components were probably provided by subcontractors, its possible that Ford didn't even specify or track the changes.

As it is, I suspect if it was marked FORD and nothing calls it out as being a "later" (or earlier) Ford, you can probably use the wrench - the judges won't know, or care.

Joe K

nkaminar 01-30-2025 12:09 PM

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This brings up the question in my mind of when adjustable wrenches were invented. Probably about the same time that things started being put together with nuts and bolts. 18th century?

Y-Blockhead 01-30-2025 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nkaminar (Post 2365995)
This brings up the question in my mind of when adjustable wrenches were invented. Probably about the same time that things started being put together with nuts and bolts. 18th century?

I bet Wikipedia will tell you...

Joe K 01-30-2025 01:02 PM

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As it is, I suspect if it was marked FORD and nothing calls it out as being a "later" (or earlier) Ford, you can probably use the wrench - the judges won't know, or care.
I will qualify this statement. What is in the Judging Standards probably has a reason. Somebody knows what this is. I'm not a Judge.

I do know a lot of judging is "what do they catch." Being human - they can't possibly catch everything. And there are "grey areas" ALL OVER the Model A construction.

Good luck,
Joe K

townsedan29 01-30-2025 02:08 PM

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thank you, this is a easier wrench to restore then the staked pin style maybe do both just to be sure

Joe K 01-30-2025 02:38 PM

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Then there is the gentleman who is "restoring" a Ford Adjustable Wrench. Including dealing with the "staking."

They mark you down for "over-restoration" do they not? (RT 15:35)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNm1Q_aDH04

When he's done he's almost made the wrench a Japanese Import.

Joe K

Synchro909 01-30-2025 04:26 PM

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Did anybody else notice how he damaged the corner of the moveable jaw when he rapped it on the vice?
IMO, that spanner would be so loose and sloppy that it would be close to useless (ruined).

Joe K 01-30-2025 04:49 PM

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IMO, that spanner would be so loose and sloppy that it would be close to useless (ruined).
Another "wrench" video does similar - i.e. take it apart and start "grinding" all the mating surface "for appearance."

Admittedly this second wrench/video was less satisfactory condition. The video comments on the "pitting."

Unique in that to get past the staking part, he "cuts" the staked pin to remove it, then converts from a staked to a threaded pin using a lathe.

Meh. Fortunate for the surplus of the wrenches. I have at least half a dozen.

Joe K

nkaminar 01-30-2025 05:23 PM

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These wrenches can be cleaned up without taking them apart by dumping them in Rust 99 or other rust treatment solution. The solution will get into all the nooks and crannies and free up the tool. This results in a usable wrench but not a work of art to hang on the wall. The jaws of the wrench can be cleaned up by opening the wrench and then using a file or grinder, being careful to make the jaws flat and parallel.

JoeCB 01-31-2025 12:01 AM

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Not to be too picky... but then again , why not. To the best of my knowledge that was not a "Fliver" / Model T wrench as it has the square lug at the end of the handle. It's a Model A wrench. The "T" wrenched did not have the square lug. The Square lug for the differential lube plugs on the "A"
Joe B

stevests 01-31-2025 06:26 PM

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I beg to differ, Joe - '26 - '27 T rear axle housing plug was square thus the redesign of the adjustable wrench then.

JoeCB 01-31-2025 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevests (Post 2366296)
I beg to differ, Joe - '26 - '27 T rear axle housing plug was square thus the redesign of the adjustable wrench then.

No need to differ, we are all here to learn.
Thanks

Joe B

Tom F OHIO 02-01-2025 09:42 AM

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When did they call it a cresent wrench??

JoeCB 02-01-2025 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom F OHIO (Post 2366368)
When did they call it a cresent wrench??

Cresent Tool company , 1915... but the Ford wrench is of a different style and , for me will always be known as a "Ford" wrench... and I might add not a Monkey Wrench, which is a different style yet.

Joe B

ModelA29 02-01-2025 08:15 PM

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Don't monkey with my wrench.
Paul Shinn gets a lot of flack on his videos for using a crescent wrench. I don't know why it's far more advanced than the one Henry provided.

Joe K 02-01-2025 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelA29 (Post 2366528)
Don't monkey with my wrench.
Paul Shinn gets a lot of flack on his videos for using a crescent wrench. I don't know why it's far more advanced than the one Henry provided.

Coes Wrench - from the inventor Loring Coes in Worcester, MA. Common pattern commonly copied. Nice in that unlike the Ford pattern wrench, this one embodies a hammer. But large sizes (up to 4') don't really fit in your pocket.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coes_Wrench_Company

Joe K

ModelA29 02-01-2025 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe K (Post 2366540)
Coes Wrench - from the inventor Loring Coes in Worcester, MA.

A refinement of the English Coach Wrench of the 17&1800s.


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