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pawillie 11-07-2024 03:29 PM

Timing Gear
 

Replacing Timing Gear on my 29 Tudor and ran into two issues. First of all there is no circle stamp on the Crank Gear. There is a small slot at top of metal guard in front of gear at the key way. Could that be it? Secondly Timing gear teeth are badly chewed and things must have moved. Any tricks for realignment?

Bob C 11-07-2024 05:22 PM

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Here is a picture of the timing marks.

JayJay 11-07-2024 08:11 PM

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Check to be sure that the tick mark on your crank gear is slightly clockwise from the key slot. It's pretty clear from Bob's picture what I'm talking about, see also below for my engine. I understand that there were some aftermarket crank gears several years ago that had that tick mark one tooth anti-clockwise and therefore the timing of the crank to the cam would be off.

What you are calling "small slot at top of metal guard in front of gear at the key way" might be the oil slinger (visible in Bob C's picture). That "metal guard" is likely the oil slinger, and it pulls off forward to expose the crank gear. Once you have the crank gear exposed you should be able to see the mark on it.

A picture of what you see and what you are confused about would help us.

If your camshaft timing gear teeth are badly chewed, introducing slop, then you should change it for new. Aluminum camshaft gear, although a bit more expensive, will last longer. If it's your crank gear that's badly chewed you definitely should replace it. A worn crank gear will quickly destroy a new cam gear. It's not trivial, but by no means impossible, to replace the crank gear with the engine in the car. Most folks cut the gear off carefully with a cutoff wheel (two places) then heat the new gear to help it go on.

alexiskai 11-07-2024 09:01 PM

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I've heard of people installing the crank gear backward so the punched mark isn't visible. Might want to check for that.

nkaminar 11-08-2024 06:40 AM

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It is possible to time the crankshaft without any marks by the valve action. But it is much easier just to line up the marks on the gears as noted above.

pawillie 11-08-2024 10:06 AM

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Took picture as suggested and mark showed up. Can't see it by just looking at it which explains the slit on top of the oil slinger. The mark is down behind the slinger. Don't know how to upload picture. Thanks for the help.

katy 11-08-2024 11:09 AM

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To post a picture:
Click on "Go Advanced,
click on the paper clip icon,
click on "choose file",
find the picture, double click on it,
click on "upload"

pawillie 11-08-2024 11:15 AM

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I ground teeth off old timing gear and used it to line up timing mark with crank mark. Worked great. Just and FYI.

Tom F OHIO 11-08-2024 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katy (Post 2348719)
To post a picture:
Click on "Go Advanced,
click on the paper clip icon,
click on "choose file",
find the picture, double click on it,
click on "upload"

Katy what do you do after uploading. The picture comes up and nothing else with it.

Bob C 11-08-2024 03:29 PM

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Write your message then click on the paper clip to add the picture.

Fullraceflathead 11-09-2024 10:05 AM

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It's usually easier to take a cold chisel that is sharp and crack the crankshaft gear to remove it rather than grind it and potentially put metal shavings all over the place and into the oil pan.

katy 11-09-2024 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom F OHIO (Post 2348777)
Katy what do you do after uploading. The picture comes up and nothing else with it.

After "uploading the picture, move the "Manage attachments" attachment to the side, then click on "Preview post"

Tom F OHIO 11-11-2024 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katy (Post 2348939)
After "uploading the picture, move the "Manage attachments" attachment to the side, then click on "Preview post"

Thank you I will keep practicing.

JayJay 11-11-2024 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fullraceflathead (Post 2348925)
It's usually easier to take a cold chisel that is sharp and crack the crankshaft gear to remove it rather than grind it and potentially put metal shavings all over the place and into the oil pan.

I would be reluctant to do this. Babbit does not respond well to shocking as you would do with a chisel on the gear.

johnbuckley 11-11-2024 01:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayJay (Post 2348625)
Check to be sure that the tick mark on your crank gear is slightly clockwise from the key slot. It's pretty clear from Bob's picture what I'm talking about...

Yes - The diagram in Les Andrews' book is wrong.

pawillie 11-21-2024 10:19 AM

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I don't see any paperclip in "Go Advanced." If I click on "add image" I get "enter the URL of your image."

katy 11-21-2024 10:50 AM

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The paper clip icon is at the top of the light blue field, just to the right of the happy face icon, put your cursor on it and it will say "attachments", click on it, simple.

pawillie 11-21-2024 03:41 PM

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Thanks, Katy, for looking out for the elderly, LOL. My dated eyes failed to see it. Blessings


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