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motorman8467 10-14-2024 05:45 AM

Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

Hello, everyone. Recently, I aquired a 1954 Ford V-8 239, OHC, EBV, with standard 3 speed tranny. Have question about the Motor Mounts. This engine supposedly came out of a Ford F100 truck. The engine has the large front motor mount still intact. Also has the transmission support as well. Are these the only mounts for this engine? Don't see any bosses where side block mounts would go on either side. Not being that familiar with the early trucks, could someone more knowledgeable than myself clear this up for me. Thanks in advance for your help.

James

5851a 10-14-2024 09:30 AM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

Yes, I believe they are. Some special features on 239 that are different than other Y block engines. If you get replacement parts never give them your original as a core. You can find good information here or the Y blocks forever site. http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Default.aspx

miker98038 10-14-2024 01:57 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

If it doesn’t turn up here, try like 5851a said, at yblocksforever. You’ll probably have to email Ted Eaton at https://www.eatonbalancing.com/2001/03/20/contact-us/. He clears new members to stop the spammers.

There’s some other odd thing about 239’s I’m not really clear about. Something about a late model that shared certain items with the later 272-292-312. Cam bearings, distributor gears, I not sure. And not sure if it applied to trucks.

All worth looking into and figuring out.

GLAmes 10-14-2024 05:16 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

I thought 239s are EBU or is that only the 239s that are in cars?

55blacktie 10-14-2024 05:24 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

"OHC" is overhead cam. Don't you mean OHV?

motorman8467 10-14-2024 06:50 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

Sorry, I meant to type in OHV.

motorman8467 10-14-2024 07:06 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

According to Mummert's chart, a 55 239 in a pick up truck would be marked EBV, and would have smaller cam beatings and a 14 tooth distributor gear. it would also be produced at the Cleveland plant. The early 239 was produced at the Dearborn plant and has a larger diameter camshaft and has a 13 tooth distributor gear. to tell the difference, the 55 block would have a circle with a C stamped inside it. This designation would signify made at the Cleveland plant.

paul2748 10-14-2024 07:10 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

The EBV block s/b a 55 block so you may have a 55 engine. There should be some bosses on the side of the block for sedan engine mounts. Sedans used side mounts plus the rear mount. In addition, sedans in 54 and 55 used what was called a steady rest at the front that looks like an engine mount. This was to "steady" the engine. Trucks used a front mount and side mounts that are part of the bellhousing.



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Originally Posted by motorman8467 (Post 2343615)
Hello, everyone. Recently, I aquired a 1954 Ford V-8 239, OHC, EBV, with standard 3 speed tranny. Have question about the Motor Mounts. This engine supposedly came out of a Ford F100 truck. The engine has the large front motor mount still intact. Also has the transmission support as well. Are these the only mounts for this engine? Don't see any bosses where side block mounts would go on either side. Not being that familiar with the early trucks, could someone more knowledgeable than myself clear this up for me. Thanks in advance for your help.

James


paul2748 10-14-2024 07:12 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

That is correct


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Originally Posted by motorman8467 (Post 2343750)
According to Mummert's chart, a 55 239 in a pick up truck would be marked EBV, and would have smaller cam beatings and a 14 tooth distributor gear. it would also be produced at the Cleveland plant. The early 239 was produced at the Dearborn plant and has a larger diameter camshaft and has a 13 tooth distributor gear. to tell the difference, the 55 block would have a circle with a C stamped inside it. This designation would signify made at the Cleveland plant.


motorman8467 10-14-2024 07:17 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

Thanks. This helps alot. I will look at that bell housing little closer.

KULTULZ 10-15-2024 03:43 AM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

Here is a brief tutorial on the FYB. There is a lot more information/details but this should give a quick idea -

http://yblockguy.com/about_the_y-block_ford.htm

The truck used a bell housing with two ears mounted opposite that would serve as the the rear engine/trans mount. The engine was mounted on a tripod arrangement.

motorman8467 10-15-2024 07:07 AM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

Thanks, KULTULZ. Good info. I will check out that link. Yea, if I went to see the Doc, I would get the same diagnosis.

KULTULZ 10-15-2024 05:57 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

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I am posting photos of the front and rear mounts. Hopefully there are visible -

KULTULZ 10-15-2024 06:03 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

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Originally Posted by motorman8467 (Post 2343813)

Yea, if I went to see the Doc, I would get the same diagnosis.

Well, I went to see another doctor for a 2nd opinion. He diagnosed me and asked how my eyesight was.

Strange question but I replied getting a little poor.

He said that there is a bunch of nerves just at the base of the spine and somehow, two got crossed. It was the one from my optic nerve and my sphincter. He said that I have a sh!tty outlook on life ... :(

motorman8467 10-15-2024 06:30 PM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

Thanks, This should be very helpful. I think I have information I can work with now. Thanks again.

KULTULZ 10-16-2024 02:46 AM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

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Here are more photos that may help -

darrell 10-16-2024 06:52 AM

Re: Questions about 1954 F100 OHC V-8, 239, w/ three sp tranny
 

there is a lot of confusion with the 239.all 54 car were EBU where the confusion comes from is the early trucks used the same engine.then in the middle of the year they went to the EBV block.its the same block all 55 239s used.it still had all the odd 54 parts but the block was the same as 55 small cam etc.


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