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soonersace 08-09-2024 08:32 PM

Gas sender vent question
 

I have a 34 ford that has a 36 ford fuel sender that goes to a more traditional gauge.

I知 sure the sender is dead- I took the gauge to the back and wired direct with proper ground- no dice. Wired the new sender and played with the float level and yup it works.

My question- the original sender has an air vent. The replacement does not. Do I need the vent? Was the vent added?

I ordered the same part number from
Bob Drake.

Do I replace my current plate with the vent with the new sender plate?

Thank you in advance.

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DavidG 08-09-2024 08:43 PM

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For your set up to function you must provide venting. If your tank is a '34, neither it or its filler neck are vented. You must, therefore, use a vented gas cap. Given the position of the gas cap relative to the '34 tank, expect gas spillage when rounding corners with 3/4 of a tank or more of gasoline.

soonersace 08-09-2024 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 2329827)
For your set up to function you must provide venting. If your tank is a '34, neither it or its filler neck are vented. You must, therefore, use a vented gas cap. Given the position of the gas cap relative to the '34 tank, expect gas spillage when rounding corners with 3/4 of a tank or more of gasoline.


Is this a vented gas cap? This seems to be upgraded with a new tank.

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69a 08-09-2024 09:03 PM

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I'm not familiar with your specific situation, but in other tanks with that type of vent, the other end of the tube that you have fitted to the sender must be secured higher than your fuel filler cap. Otherwise when you're topping off at the gas station there will be gas exiting the tube. You obviously need to make sure that the tube and vent connection is tight.

69a 08-09-2024 09:15 PM

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It doesn't look to be vented.
If you have gas in the tank and your fuel line is connected at the carb, you can test it by putting the gas cap on and blowing into the vent tube. Blow as hard as you can for about 30 seconds, if it keeps pressure, the cap is not vented.

deuce lover 08-10-2024 02:01 AM

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Here is what the 36-40 correct vented cap looks like on the underside.It will interchange with a 32-35 gas cap.

Terry,OH 08-10-2024 07:32 AM

Re: Gas sender vent question
 

From your photo of your existing, bad, sender it appears you have a vent tube between the two electrical wires. The vent at this location will allow you to use an original unvented cap and prevent fuel from escaping from the cap. Without a vent on the tank itself refueling can become bother some since the trapped air in the tank will want to burb out and bring fuel with it.

soonersace 08-10-2024 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry,OH (Post 2329859)
From your photo of your existing, bad, sender it appears you have a vent tube between the two electrical wires. The vent at this location will allow you to use an original unvented cap and prevent fuel from escaping from the cap. Without a vent on the tank itself refueling can become bother some since the trapped air in the tank will want to burb out and bring fuel with it.


So I知 thinking I値l modify the new sender with the vent tube. I thought I could switch it-but the sender is riveted to the top. I値l drill a hole-add some tubing and probably do some solder or jb weld to attach it. My current bad one seems to be soldered.


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deuce_roadster 08-10-2024 10:26 AM

Re: Gas sender vent question
 

DO NOT blow into a 32-35? (not sure when last hydrostatic gauge was) with the stock hydrostatic gauge or you will force the VERY CORROSSIVE Indicator fluid out of the gauge and ruin everything it touches. There is an air line that goes from the "sender"/pick up to the gauge. This unit has a built in vent.

V8guy 08-10-2024 12:00 PM

Re: Gas sender vent question
 

Does the Drake sender attach directly to the tank or is a adapter plate used,
I would like to change my 35 to a 36 gauge.

nelsb01 08-10-2024 12:43 PM

Re: Gas sender vent question
 

Someone's not thinking safety here.
Solder -- heat--- gas fumes.............

You won't have to worry about venting the tank....................

DavidG 08-10-2024 12:53 PM

Re: Gas sender vent question
 

Sheldon,


When you state that the vented and non-vented caps interchange, please elaborate as using a vented cap on a '32-'34 vehicle with an in-cab tank with an in-cab filler opening is downright dangerous, even if you like gasoline fumes.:)

deuce lover 08-11-2024 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 2329911)
Sheldon,


When you state that the vented and non-vented caps interchange, please elaborate as using a vented cap on a '32-'34 vehicle with an in-cab tank with an in-cab filler opening is downright dangerous, even if you like gasoline fumes.:)

David, When I replaced the 35 hydrostatic sending unit (in a 35 I once owned)with a Drake 36 and later electric sending unit I used a 36 vented gas cap. I also replaced the dash unit with a 36 electric unit. The OP replaced (or it had already been replaced)the 34 hydrostatic sender with a Drake electric so the car has had the orig gauge replaced or modified?.Terry brought to my attention of the fact that a vent had been adapted to the Drake sender which I overlooked.

soonersace 08-11-2024 08:04 AM

Re: Gas sender vent question
 

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Originally Posted by nelsb01 (Post 2329910)
Someone's not thinking safety here.
Solder -- heat--- gas fumes.............

You won't have to worry about venting the tank....................


I won稚 do it anywhere near the gas tank- I値l put it in AFTER I solder in the vent.


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soonersace 08-11-2024 08:05 AM

Re: Gas sender vent question
 

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Originally Posted by V8guy (Post 2329908)
Does the Drake sender attach directly to the tank or is a adapter plate used,
I would like to change my 35 to a 36 gauge.


I think I have a 35 gas tank so mine fits right in. I also have an aftermarket non hydrostatic modern style gas gauge.


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