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old Tom 05-17-2024 09:20 AM

13/4 intake
 

Has anyone used 13/4 intake valves and fly cut the heads'

KiWinUS 05-17-2024 10:53 AM

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Has all been done in years past by many.

19Fordy 05-17-2024 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2311956)
Has all been done in years past by many.

What does 13/4 mean? I am not familiar with that term. Thanks. jim

Tim Ayers 05-17-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 2311968)
What does 13/4 mean? I am not familiar with that term. Thanks. jim

I believe he is talking about 1 3/4" or 1.75" intake and exhaust valves.

19Fordy 05-17-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 2311973)
I believe he is talking about 1 3/4" or 1.75" intake and exhaust valves.


Oh, ok. Thanks. That sure is a big valve.

Ronnieroadster 05-17-2024 03:08 PM

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Stupid me I thought it was a metric question :eek:

Tim Ayers 05-17-2024 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnieroadster (Post 2312009)
Stupid me I thought it was a metric question :eek:

Haha

Ol' Ron 05-17-2024 10:02 PM

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I use the 1.72 chevy buils in the street engunes instead of a cam. Gota shorten the valve some, but works just fine, no head mods needed. adds alittle more air, but doesn't kill low end torque,
Gramps

Bored&Stroked 05-18-2024 09:55 AM

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I use 1.72" intakes and put larger hardened valve seats in the block. You have to have the special hard seat cutter to put the larger seats in.

The seat I use is an SBI - SB1750-8.

If you take the hard seats out, you can put a 1 3/4" valve and put the seat right into the cast iron of the block.

The valves I use are high-quality Manley pieces for early SBCs. they have a nice profile and are standard SBC length (which is a bonus for a big cam with a small base circle). You'll have to make special retainers and usually shim the Isky 185-G springs to get whatever lbs on the seat you need.

1.72” Manley Intake Valves: 12342-8

Bored&Stroked 05-18-2024 10:11 AM

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Here are some links to vids related to cutting and installing new seats. You'll see my good friend Jeff Fowler in the vids - this was the last engine he worked on before he closed his business in Columbus, OH. His operation was the best machine shop I've ever worked with. We did some amazing things with top-alcohol custom blower designs. I'll post a picture below of the last blower design I worked with him on (there is one more, but I can't show it! LOL):

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZdR1zZLZaTw

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5Z-EheS73zM

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aCrNzCg4W1A

Bored&Stroked 05-18-2024 10:14 AM

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1 Attachment(s)
Here it the last commercially available Fowler 14-71 blower (I know - this is totally off topic!). This is a rendering I did with SolidWorks:

Attachment 543083

petehoovie 05-18-2024 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked (Post 2312148)
Here it the last commercially available Fowler 14-71 blower (I know - this is totally off topic!). This is a rendering I did with SolidWorks:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1716045227

34fordy 05-18-2024 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked (Post 2312147)
Here are some links to vids related to cutting and installing new seats. You'll see my good friend Jeff Fowler in the vids - this was the last engine he worked on before he closed his business in Columbus, OH. His operation was the best machine shop I've ever worked with. We did some amazing things with top-alcohol custom blower designs. I'll post a picture below of the last blower design I worked with him on (there is one more, but I can't show it! LOL):

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZdR1zZLZaTw

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5Z-EheS73zM

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aCrNzCg4W1A

Zat u in the video Dale? Whatcha smokin? LOL

Bored&Stroked 05-18-2024 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 34fordy (Post 2312221)
Zat u in the video Dale? Whatcha smokin? LOL

Naw, that is Jeff Fowler . . . he is smoking a bitty cigar, not a blunt! LOL

34fordy 05-18-2024 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked (Post 2312223)
Naw, that is Jeff Fowler . . . he is smoking a bitty cigar, not a blunt! LOL

I always wonder what other members look like. Sometimes someone else slips in a picture of members, even the banned fellas, like CharlieNY. I liked the picture of the "counselor" sound asleep in his recliner. When I occasionally get to the Wisconsin swap meets I know I walk past Barners that I have communicated with here. It would be nice if we could order Fordbarn t-shirts with our Fordbarn ID on them. Maybe even jackets. I would be proud to wear one. Might even have my wife let me wear it in my casket! LOL As dedicated as our many many fellow members are I would think that it would be a worthwhile endeavor for some younger member. I know Mickael Driskell probably has his hands full but we surely have other members up to the task. Maybe Ryan???

panic 05-20-2024 02:20 PM

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"I use the 1.72 Chevy builds in the street engines instead of a cam.... adds a little more air, but doesn't kill low end torque""


I agree

old Tom 05-21-2024 09:41 AM

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we ground the seats right in the block

Bored&Stroked 05-21-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by old Tom (Post 2312712)
we ground the seats right in the block

This is usually how it is done with full-on race engines - pull the hard seats out and grind the seats right in the cast iron. There is no issue with this and it gets rid of the challenge of putting much larger hard seats in the block.

Also, pay a lot of attention to the style of valve head on the 1.75" valves. If this is strictly a race engine, then think about well-shaped and thinner valve heads and I'd probably use a 30 degree intake seat instead of the usual 45 degree seat. I used to profile the valves on my lathe - really thinning the heads and to make a nicely curved/smooth transition from the stem into the top portion of the valve.

KiWinUS 05-21-2024 05:07 PM

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I have an old Bonneville engine I have owned for over 25 years with the most amazing port job ever. It has 1.800 intake valves and 1.700 exhaust. 3.375 x 4.250. Had a Potvin Eliminator cam. I may have to dig it out and resurrect this gem. Unfortunately I don’t know whose car. Block has 4 sleeves so could tell some stories. Both valve seats ground into block.

old Tom 05-22-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2312801)
I have an old Bonneville engine I have owned for over 25 years with the most amazing port job ever. It has 1.800 intake valves and 1.700 exhaust. 3.375 x 4.250. Had a Potvin Eliminator cam. I may have to dig it out and resurrect this gem. Unfortunately I don’t know whose car. Block has 4 sleeves so could tell some stories. Both valve seats ground into block.

what is the CI of that motor?


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