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Ken/Alabama 03-21-2024 06:37 PM

W&H DuCoil V12 conversion
 

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Would anyone out there in Flathead Land happen to have one of the Lincoln V12 distributors converted to use on the V8 by W&H DuCoil ?I need a picture of the plate that holds the ignition points. Their conversion used the 36-48 V8 points but I’d like to see how they done it. I have the Car Craft magazines from 1954 but that conversion uses Bendix Scintilla ignition points that are now hard to find. Plus I like the fact that I don’t have to cut the contact springs off my V12 coil with the DuCoil conversion. Thanks

hotcoupe 03-21-2024 06:46 PM

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I have a W&H Ducoil distributor, it is packed up and I don't have access to it at the moment. I will get it out this week and take a couple of pics.
Tom

Ken/Alabama 03-21-2024 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hotcoupe (Post 2299336)
I have a W&H Ducoil distributor, it is packed up and I don't have access to it at the moment. I will get it out this week and take a couple of pics.
Tom

Thank you.

petehoovie 03-21-2024 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama (Post 2299334)
Would anyone out there in Flathead Land happen to have one of the Lincoln V12 distributors converted to use on the V8 by W&H DuCoil ?I need a picture of the plate that holds the ignition points. Their conversion used the 36-48 V8 points but I’d like to see how they done it. I have the Car Craft magazines from 1954 but that conversion uses Bendix Scintilla ignition points that are now hard to find. Plus I like the fact that I don’t have to cut the contact springs off my V12 coil with the DuCoil conversion. Thanks

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KiWinUS 03-22-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama (Post 2299334)
Would anyone out there in Flathead Land happen to have one of the Lincoln V12 distributors converted to use on the V8 by W&H DuCoil ?I need a picture of the plate that holds the ignition points. Their conversion used the 36-48 V8 points but I’d like to see how they done it. I have the Car Craft magazines from 1954 but that conversion uses Bendix Scintilla ignition points that are now hard to find. Plus I like the fact that I don’t have to cut the contact springs off my V12 coil with the DuCoil conversion. Thanks

NOS here mate.

petehoovie 03-22-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2299480)
NOS here mate.

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tubman 03-22-2024 02:05 PM

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It would appear there is a big difference between the old and new style DuCoil distributors. Would they use the same point plate?

KiWinUS 03-22-2024 02:24 PM

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An unknown LZ conversion.
These points look the same as the NOS distributor points.

Ken/Alabama 03-22-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2299490)
An unknown LZ conversion.
These points look the same as the NOS distributor points.

Thanks Tony, I have a short old 8mm home movie of a friend back in the 70s putting together a converted W&H DuCoil Zephyr distributor. I was able to crop a few frames from the movie but the clarity and lighting isn’t great. But I can plainly see that he’s using 37-48 Ford ignition points. Question is that I don’t know how it’s fixed up top where the contact springs on the coil makes contact.

petehoovie 03-22-2024 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2299490)
An unknown LZ conversion.
These points look the same as the NOS distributor points.

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petehoovie 03-22-2024 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama (Post 2299530)
Thanks Tony, I have a short old 8mm home movie of a friend back in the 70s putting together a converted W&H DuCoil Zephyr distributor. I was able to crop a few frames from the movie but the clarity and lighting isn’t great. But I can plainly see that he’s using 37-48 Ford ignition points. Question is that I don’t know how it’s fixed up top where the contact springs on the coil makes contact.

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hotcoupe 03-23-2024 11:24 AM

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Ken, here are a few images of the W&H Lincoln Zephyr points plate. If you need anything else, let me know.
Tom

KiWinUS 03-23-2024 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hotcoupe (Post 2299627)
Ken, here are a few images of the W&H Lincoln Zephyr points plate. If you need anything else, let me know.
Tom

Great pics. Thanks for sharing. Appear to be magneto points.

petehoovie 03-23-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hotcoupe (Post 2299627)
Ken, here are a few images of the W&H Lincoln Zephyr points plate. If you need anything else, let me know.
Tom

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...6&d=1711211040

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Bored&Stroked 03-23-2024 12:19 PM

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Those are definitely magneto points - the same ones used in the Harman-Collins dual coils. They are not super hard to find (if you know the part numbers), though they are not exactly cheap either.

Ken/Alabama 03-23-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hotcoupe (Post 2299627)
Ken, here are a few images of the W&H Lincoln Zephyr points plate. If you need anything else, let me know.
Tom

Thanks for the pictures. I have a couple old conversions that uses the mag points. With that setup you must cut the contact springs off the bottom of the coil then notch the distributor housing to feed two wires to the outside. I just happened to notice that the one in the picture I posted that my friend was rebuilding its using the standard 37-48 V8 points and the coil still has the contact springs. I’m just wondering how that was done. Makes for a little cleaner installation.

KiWinUS 03-23-2024 01:32 PM

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Ken it seems to me you could use whatever ever points you want. Just have to redrill or make points plate to suit. The coil contact being the small challenge to overcome.

Ken/Alabama 03-23-2024 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2299655)
Ken it seems to me you could use whatever ever points you want. Just have to redrill or make points plate to suit. The coil contact being the small challenge to overcome.

Yeah, I have a few ideas. Guess I’ll try them out and strobe it on the machine and see how it goes. Worse case scenario I’ll just use the mag points . I have a couple of them that has the 10-52344W points and another that has points that looks like them but they aren’t as long and they have no number on them.

KiWinUS 03-23-2024 02:45 PM

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H&C dizzy points

KiWinUS 03-23-2024 03:01 PM

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This is very clean


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