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MurphyJ 02-16-2024 05:45 PM

Distributor Locking Screw, HELP!
 

I replaced the head on my engine and after the distributor was placed down in position I attempted to install the distributor locking screw and find that the screw will not turn or screw all the way in to reach the distributor base. The screw appears to be tapered and the hole in the head's threads appear to be tapered as well. I'm stumped to say the least. Have other Model A owners experienced the same problem ? Any tips, suggestions, comments will be of great help. I thank you.

alexiskai 02-16-2024 06:08 PM

Re: Distributor Locking Screw, HELP!
 

The distributor hold-down screw is 3/8"-24 (UNF). Shouldn't be tapered.

Dick M 02-16-2024 06:20 PM

Re: Distributor Locking Screw, HELP!
 

Are you referring to the distributor cam lock down screw or the one the goes into the side of the head to lock and ground the distributor?

It sounds like you are referring to the latter. If so, you should also have a jamb nut on the screw. Be sure it is backed off enough so that the screw can be turned in far enough to make contact with the distributor. You can then tighten up the jamb nut once you have made contact with the distributor.

If you are referring to the cam lock down screw, it has a washer under the screw that keeps the cam locked down...

lrf 02-16-2024 09:54 PM

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And don't over tighten the screw that pushes against the distributor, it can crack the base of the distributor, the jam-nut will hold the screw in place. LRF

700rpm 02-16-2024 11:41 PM

Re: Distributor Locking Screw, HELP!
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by lrf (Post 2291710)
And don't over tighten the screw that pushes against the distributor, it can crack the base of the distributor, the jam-nut will hold the screw in place. LRF

This is a very important piece of info.

jack wingard 02-17-2024 07:57 AM

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It don't use a regular 3/8-24 screw. Look what the vendors sell and see if yours is the same

Bob Bidonde 02-17-2024 09:30 AM

Re: Distributor Locking Screw, HELP!
 

According to the Ford Parts Price List, the special headless lock screw that secures the distributor is an A-20928-S8 which is 3/8-24 x 11/16 and zinc plated. The lock nut is A-21750-S8 hex with a 3/8-24 thread. This info appears in the Price Lists of January, 1928 and July, 1931 so the screw & nut are the same for 1928 through 1931.
https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/c.../A-12127-L.jpg

Fullraceflathead 02-17-2024 09:46 AM

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The only tapered thread on the model A. engine is the 1 just above the oil pump which is an external plug.

talwrench 02-17-2024 10:04 AM

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Are you sure the distributor is full seated in the head?

Benson 02-17-2024 10:06 AM

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Not on engine BUT the Carb GAV housing A-9528 is tapered pipe thread also.

1/8-27 NPT

jg61hawk 02-17-2024 10:52 AM

Re: Distributor Locking Screw, HELP!
 

It sounds like the above responses have helped you...Here's a tip that may or may not apply...I was at a national meet a car came to the repair tent with the threaded hole stripped in the head so the distributor was loose and no way to tighten it in place. The owner was very upset thinking the entire head would need to be replaced. One of the guys at the tent simply suggested tac welding a jam nut onto the head and that would basically become the new threaded hole. Great idea.

Bruce of MN 02-17-2024 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jg61hawk (Post 2291771)
It sounds like the above responses have helped you...Here's a tip that may or may not apply...I was at a national meet a car came to the repair tent with the threaded hole stripped in the head so the distributor was loose and no way to tighten it in place. The owner was very upset thinking the entire head would need to be replaced. One of the guys at the tent simply suggested tac welding a jam nut onto the head and that would basically become the new threaded hole. Great idea.

I’m no welder, so a steel nut to cast iron seems exotic. One of these requires .5” of metal, is there enough? https://www.mcmaster.com/94165A255/

nkaminar 02-17-2024 06:41 PM

Re: Distributor Locking Screw, HELP!
 

Special welding rods are made for welding cast iron.

If the treads in the head are buggered up, pull the distributor and place a rag down the hole and re tap the threads. Vacuum out all the chips before removing the rag. Then buy a new screw and nut.

TerryO 02-17-2024 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nkaminar (Post 2291856)
Special welding rods are made for welding cast iron.

If the treads in the head are buggered up, pull the distributor and place a rag down the hole and re tap the threads. Vacuum out all the chips before removing the rag. Then buy a new screw and nut.


Also putting a magnet in the hole helps...


TOB

JayJay 02-17-2024 09:49 PM

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Considering the risk of chips getting into the valve galley, i personally would pull the head, drill out the hole, and then either install a heli-coil (or variant, I generally use TimeSert) or thread oversize. If you do the latter you will need to face the new stud with the little teat on the end to fit into the groove on the distributor.

FrankWest 08-01-2024 03:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by talwrench (Post 2291760)
Are you sure the distributor is full seated in the head?

how can you tell?

BRENT in 10-uh-C 08-01-2024 04:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankWest (Post 2328236)
how can you tell?

Look at the clearance between the base of the distributor and see it it is flat against the boss on the top of the cylinder head. Also, try to rotate the distributor housing to see if the pin is indexed into the pin hole.


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