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SoCalCoupe 11-27-2023 12:58 PM

Fake 'R' code Galaxie?
 

Saw an 'R' code Galaxie on BringATrailer. The trim tag has been mounted with new rivets on the door and not the door frame. The VIN tab under the hood looks like it's been welded on upside down. Never seen one like that; I've always seen the numbers right-side-up when viewed from the bumper, not right-side-up when viewed from the front door between the cowl and the hood.


Seen a lot of suspicious VIN's lately on desirable vehicles. Maybe my standards are too high and there's just a lot of variability in manufacturing.



Thoughts?


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=46032

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=46033

oldbugger 11-27-2023 01:29 PM

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When I see that kind of stuff I expect the worst case scenario.

Ford Freak 11-27-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by oldbugger (Post 2272697)
When I see that kind of stuff I expect the worst case scenario.

Me too!!!!!!!!!

KULTULZ 11-27-2023 06:42 PM

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It is more commonplace than known/believed -

https://wilsonauto.com/how-criminals...rs-and-trucks/

SoCalCoupe 11-27-2023 07:03 PM

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I did look up some other '64 Galaxies and it seems that the location of the trim tag and orientation of the VIN tag changed to what what's shown in the pictures. This actually COULD actually be correct and authentic. I haven't accused anyone of anything but certainly when a single letter in a VIN code means up to a 100% price difference or tens of thousands of dollars, I'm always suspicious.


Frankly I'd rather have a car with an acknowledged engine swap to clone a more expensive option than pay really big bucks for one character in some flimsy pieces of metal.

miker98038 11-27-2023 11:28 PM

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I’ve got a friend who’s been into Corvettes and early Camaros for years. There’s a whole industry of guys out there providing parts to fake them, and another whole industry of guys who specialize in catching them. Makes me laugh when it’s an alternator or a starter with “matching numbers”

BLACKNRED 11-28-2023 01:52 AM

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I had a 63 1/2 500XL Galaxie 352 Cruisomatic, the vin number stamped on the tab on the RHS cowl, had been xxxx out and replaced with the new number, the xxxx out number indicated a 390, this was done on the production line.
Car was an LA car, from memory Reseda CA

Grumpy Rick 11-28-2023 04:33 AM

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Maybe 'Pico Rivera' CA.?

1942deluxe 11-28-2023 08:43 AM

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Not far from us is a fellow that has a 1964 Galaxie convertible with a 427. His Dad ordered a new 64 Galaxie 427 convertible here and after a number of years it rusted out. He bought another Galaxie convertible and put the 427 in it. I think he still has the "hulk" of the original car. Haven't seen it but everyone tells me it's not repairable. Kind of a dilemma of what you do there. He is an honest guy but there's a possibility the next owner may not be.

craig 11-28-2023 08:51 PM

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I had a '64 Z code (390) Galaxie, the tag was on the door and the body stamped VIN was like your picture.
Most likely the door tag in the photo had been removed when the door was repainted. It looks like the guy used the right rivets when he reinstalled the tag.
What was the asking price for the car?

SoCalCoupe 11-29-2023 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craig (Post 2273083)
I had a '64 Z code (390) Galaxie, the tag was on the door and the body stamped VIN was like your picture.
Most likely the door tag in the photo had been removed when the door was repainted. It looks like the guy used the right rivets when he reinstalled the tag.
What was the asking price for the car?


It's a no-reserve auction on bringatrailer.com. Someone's going to buy it. Unless it's a real steal, I'll probably pass. I'd have just as much fun, if not more, with a 390-powered Galaxie for a few $10,000 less.

Ford blue blood 11-29-2023 11:04 AM

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Is the vin stamped on the frame rail in front of the right side front body mount on 64s as it is on 57s?

5851a 11-29-2023 12:34 PM

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Best to check with an R code Galaxie registry. Lot of different parts on a R code. Brake line routing and brakes, springs, no power assists, different rims, iirc they did not use the million dollar ride front suspension but used the 62 Ford set up like police and taxi. Another site mentioned once frame stamp was under upper A arm on their car. Buyer beware.

craig 11-29-2023 01:42 PM

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From what I've read and seen, '62 was the last year for the VIN stamped into the frame

KULTULZ 11-29-2023 07:03 PM

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I don't FACEBOOK -

See if this is still active - https://www.facebook.com/groups/493254927531075

KULTULZ 11-29-2023 07:58 PM

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mercman from oz 11-29-2023 08:22 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...mp;d=170130723

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1701307237

1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 XL 427 Hardtop

SoCalCoupe 11-29-2023 09:06 PM

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Beautiful! I'll bet that could pass anything on the road except a gas station!


As a kid, about 5 years old, my neighbor had a Galaxie. I believe it was a 1962 black 2-door with red interior. Can't remember whether it was a convertible or a hardtop. Thought it was the coolest car ever, and still do.



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Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2273305)


mercman from oz 11-29-2023 10:03 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1701313236

Interior - 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 XL 427 Hardtop

SoCalCoupe 11-29-2023 10:46 PM

Re: Fake 'R' code Galaxie?
 

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2273322)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1701313236

Interior - 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 XL 427 Hardtop


To each their own opinion but mine is that this is the epitome of American cars.


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