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c277687 08-03-2023 03:35 PM

1939 Pedal Assy
 

I'm new to flatheads. I've got a 36 slant back torn down to the frame and the one thing I would like to do is add juice brakes. I'm told the 39 pedal assy should fit with no issues but since the 35 to 40 frames were basically the same, can I use a pedal assy from a 1940 without any modifications?

TJ 08-03-2023 03:46 PM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

No, the '40 assembly is different. The 39 is the one that will have the correct pieces to line up for your clutch linkage.

V8COOPMAN 08-03-2023 05:24 PM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ (Post 2245057)
No, the '40 assembly is different. The 39 is the one that will have the correct pieces to line up for your clutch linkage.


As "TJ" says above, the '39 pedal assembly is a one-year-only pedal set that keeps the clutch linkage geometry lined-up as it needs to be for a top-shift transmission, as in the picture BELOW!

Coop


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1479532526

Newc 08-03-2023 06:48 PM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

Drake at one time sold a repop version. Newc

my4dv8 08-04-2023 12:53 AM

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Ok can someone explain to us what the differences are between 39 and 40 so we understand what works best and why.I mean if you see a 39 40 pedal assembly at a swap meet you want to know the differences, heck i thought they were the same item .

deuce lover 08-04-2023 04:35 AM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

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Here are pics,first 2, of the 39 and last 2 are 1940

uncle buck 08-04-2023 08:16 AM

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The easiest way to tell is on the 39 the clutch pedal is mounted to a shaft that goes through the frame bracket. On the 40 pedals both pedals mount to a stub shaft machined on each side of the frame mounting bracket

Juergen 08-04-2023 08:20 AM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

Uncle Buck covered this

Zeke3 08-04-2023 08:49 AM

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Ford redesigned the clutch linkage for 1940 models to free up space for the shift linkage for the side shift transmissions. The clutch linkage was moved to the left as Buck described and the clutch release shaft was changed in the transmission to accommodate the new linkage. A pivot ball and frame stiffener were also added to the lower flange of the X member for the clutch cross shaft.

I have a complete set of 1940 pedals and clutch linkage that I removed from my 1937 if anyone needs a set. I am changing back to the cable brakes and original clutch linkage on my car.

petehoovie 08-04-2023 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce lover (Post 2245179)
Here are pics,first 2, of the 39 and last 2 are 1940

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1691141729

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...2&d=1691141729

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1691141729

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1691141729

Krylon32 08-04-2023 10:48 AM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

I would recommending sourcing an original Ford 39 pedal assembly over a Drake unit. The originals are forged and the Drake part is cast. There have been reports of the cast pieces failing?

V8COOPMAN 08-04-2023 10:58 AM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylon32 (Post 2245266)
I would recommending sourcing an original Ford 39 pedal assembly over a Drake unit. The originals are forged and the Drake part is cast. There have been reports of the cast pieces failing?


If I'm not mistaken, I believe Bob's '39 pedal assemblies are no more!

Coop

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barnfind08 08-04-2023 11:35 AM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

I messaged this gentleman that I have one for sale.

Krylon32 08-04-2023 12:27 PM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

V8-You are probably right. I can't keep up with Back Order Bob. Seems like everytime I need something he's out.

JM 35 Sedan 08-06-2023 09:44 AM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

At one time the Early Ford Garage located in Covina California sold a conversion kit for adding hydraulic brakes to 35/36 Fords that allowed the use of the stock 35/36 brake/clutch pedal assembly, that was completely bolt on, requiring no modifications to the stock frame. This is how I installed hydraulic brakes on one of my 35's. It was not a cheap conversion, but it met my goals of not F---ing up anything on a completely stock car & frame.

deuce lover 08-06-2023 11:18 AM

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Years ago I saw that installation in a 35 coupe.What I did not care for was that the MC hung below the center X member behind the saddle.The 39 pedal assy is the ticket.

blucar 08-06-2023 11:51 AM

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When i converted the brakes on my '36 in 1952 from mechanical to hydraulic I harvested everything from a '41 Ford, front spindles and drums/wheels. The master cylinder/peddle assembly proved to be a difficult issue, I ended up keeping the '36 peddle assembly putting the master cylinder where the battery had been utilizing a longer rod from the the peddle assembly to the master cylinder.
I had already relocated the battery into the trunk behind the seat on the passenger side, when I put dual exhaust on the car.
Within a couple of years the master cylinder location proved to be a problem, searching for a solution I found that a '39 peddle assembly was a perfect solution. With a few minor adjustments to the bolt pattern the '39 assembly solved the problem. Through out the years I have converted several cars, including my brothers '37 Ford 4dr. Many years ago I acquired a '39 peddle assembly that I have not used, it hangs from the rafters in my garage..

petehoovie 08-06-2023 01:49 PM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by blucar (Post 2245680)
Many years ago I acquired a '39 peddle assembly that I have not used, it hangs from the rafters in my garage..

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1691340658

Newc 08-06-2023 02:06 PM

Re: 1939 Pedal Assy
 

I have seen a 'Bootleg' conversion of a '40, by pressing out the cross shaft, honing the hole and using an early clutch pedal and shaft. NO bushing for cross shaft! Newc

cas3 08-06-2023 03:36 PM

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Blucar, are those antique "fire bombs" I see hanging in the net?


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