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walls 04-08-2023 05:11 PM

Snyder’s head question
 

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I have what I believe is a 6:1 Snyder’s head
I pulled it off a B engine that I bought last year.

Using that as a frame of reference, I’m assuming the head on my coupe also has a Snyder 6:1 head.
I haven’t driven it since I bought more than a year ago and I’m getting ready to get it running/driving.

What are the odds these same marks without being the same head?
Or do all model A heads have these “dots”?

walls 04-08-2023 05:20 PM

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Now that I’m looking, I see there are stock heads listed on eBay with those dots.
Is there any way to tell whether stock or Snyders head?

Synchro909 04-08-2023 05:26 PM

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A photo of the under side showing the combustion chambers would help.

walls 04-08-2023 06:08 PM

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Pic of the combustion chambers

walls 04-08-2023 06:11 PM

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Again, now that I’m looking, I’m thinking this is a stock head.
Do you agree?

nkaminar 04-08-2023 06:58 PM

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All things head to here: https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/hea...ssionratio.htm

Looks like a Snyders 6.0 head to me. By the way, in my opinion, that is an excellent combustion chamber design. Ask Don at Snyders.

Smokedtires 04-08-2023 07:53 PM

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I have no dimple on my 6.0 Snyder head. Attached pic of combustion chamber.

walls 04-08-2023 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokedtires (Post 2217296)
I have no dimple on my 6.0 Snyder head. Attached pic of combustion chamber.

Looks like mine is a stock head.
I thought it was a Snyder head, but compared to yours, the combustion area goes further into the piston area.

Synchro909 04-08-2023 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by walls (Post 2217303)
Looks like mine is a stock head.
I thought it was a Snyder head, but compared to yours, the combustion area goes further into the piston area.

And I think the combustion chamber is deeper (that may be an optical illusion) which all means that it is not a particularly high CR head.

Terry Burtz, Calif 04-08-2023 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by walls (Post 2217251)
I have what I believe is a 6:1 Snyder’s head
I pulled it off a B engine that I bought last year.

Using that as a frame of reference, I’m assuming the head on my coupe also has a Snyder 6:1 head.
I haven’t driven it since I bought more than a year ago and I’m getting ready to get it running/driving.

What are the odds these same marks without being the same head?
Or do all model A heads have these “dots”?



That is an original Model A head.

All original heads (and the Burtz head) have those marks.

The 3 marks that you found are where core support wires exited the casting and most were ground off as part of the casting cleanup.

31a 04-08-2023 10:34 PM

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The picture you show is a stock head.

cas3 04-08-2023 10:38 PM

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I have always thought the snyder head has no marks at all on the top, where as a stock A head will have some casting #'s . True ?

Y-Blockhead 04-08-2023 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 2217340)
I have always thought the snyder head has no marks at all on the top, where as a stock A head will have some casting #'s . True ?

Snyder's 5.5 head has two dots as seen in picture. I am not sure about the 6.0.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1681013449

cas3 04-08-2023 11:46 PM

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Thanks for that info, Y block

walls 04-09-2023 06:28 AM

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Thanks fellas.
I’ve been messing with these cars off and on for 12 years or so and still amazes me how much I don’t know.

ModelA29 04-09-2023 10:14 AM

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The problem with heads is everyone wants them to look stock on the outside. The only way to tell is by the combustion chamber. Even then someone may have cast a similar looking chamber (but deeper or shallower) knocking off a part without doing the hard work. You need to figure out the actual volume of the combustion chamber to know for sure.

rich40701 04-09-2023 01:51 PM

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Just got a Snyder's 6.0 head after flip flopping between 5.5 or 6 and the 6 does not have the dots.

rich40701 04-09-2023 01:53 PM

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The Snyder's 6.0 combustion chamber is pretty rough; would there be any benefit to smoothing it up or would that change the volume too much?

Smokedtires 04-09-2023 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rich40701 (Post 2217463)
The Snyder's 6.0 combustion chamber is pretty rough; would there be any benefit to smoothing it up or would that change the volume too much?

I've always been in the habit of breaking any sharp edges in the combustion chamber. My fear is, if there is someplace that can start to heat up and glow, it might cause a premature ignition.

Synchro909 04-09-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokedtires (Post 2217515)
I've always been in the habit of breaking any sharp edges in the combustion chamber. My fear is, if there is someplace that can start to heat up and glow, it might cause a premature ignition.

I agree with that and I don't think there is any point getting too enthusiastic about it. Carbon build-up over time is likely to create more points for pre ignition IMO.


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