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Phil G 02-07-2022 12:50 PM

49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Hi All
1949 - 1951 L head Lincoln. Will it bolt up to a 41 ford transmission? Will it fit length wise in the 41. flywheel & clutch fit? what problems would i run into trying to do this? any help will be appreciated

19Fordy 02-07-2022 01:43 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Phil, You might want to reconsider installing the Lincoln engine in your 41. It's a boat anchor about twice the weight of the 51 Merc engine. Plus, it would require modifications as it's a large engine.

Read these threads about 337 Lincoln transplant.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...+engine+weight and this
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...gine+pros+cons

tubman 02-07-2022 01:50 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

The main problem with these engines is that they are very heavy. When I was in high school, a couple of local guys put one in a '53 Ford. I was there to get it running for them. When they got it in, it dropped the front suspension right on the bump stops. I was done with them after I got it running. They abandoned the project soon after for some reason. It never saw the road and disappeared soon after.

If they could get one in a '53, you can probably get one in a '41, but it's probably not a good idea. "Just because you can doesn't mean you should."

19Fordy 02-07-2022 01:54 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

I think the biggest problem you will face in the weight of the Lincoln engine. It is almost twice the weight of a 49-51 Merc. A very inefficient boat anchor that will turn into a money pit pretty quick.

Ol' Ron 02-07-2022 06:36 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Besides the weight of the engine, it won't bolt up to the early trans. If ot's free, it's too expensive.
Gramps

5851a 02-07-2022 07:35 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

I always liked the idea of that big flathead. So much engineering for such a short life span though. Have read they weigh around 850#. An early Chrysler Hemi is only 100 pounds lighter. A friend had a F-8? with one in it, the radiator probably weighed more than I did at the time. He had a spare engine from a Lincoln, it looked so odd with a P/S pump bolted to the head. Would make an interesting swap if well executed $.

Henry Floored 02-07-2022 08:21 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Ken Austin put one in a ‘39 Ford convertible sedan and did pretty well with it.

Did anyone see the Edsel Ford ‘34 “Special” clone that was displayed at the Grand National Roadster Show last weekend?

It has a 337” Lincoln in it backed up by a Chevy trans. H & H Flatheads have the Austin aluminum heads and intake for the Lincoln Flathead.

I’ll see if I can find pictures or a link to the video.

Henry Floored 02-07-2022 08:26 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Try this:

https://www.facebook.com/10741227301...1186096652649/

rotorwrench 02-07-2022 08:38 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

The 337 was used from 1949 through 1951. The 317 Y-block was used from 1952 through 1954 on Lincolns.

Zeke3 02-07-2022 08:39 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

That is a sweet looking installation. I was trying to figure out how they did the radiator hose clamps on that thing, it looks like 0.032" safety wire to me.

38 coupe 02-07-2022 08:41 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

The 337 does not weigh twice a Mercury engine. It is heavy. A fellow on the HAMB put one on a scale to get actual weight, 700 lbs as measured: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...athead.832985/

I agree it doesn't make sense to install one in a 41 Ford. You have to find a McBar adapter (made in small numbers in the 50s) or make your own version. Anything is possible, but not a compelling reason in this case.

The three people I am aware of who have running 337s report very good performance. The report that most surprised me is the guy who has both an F-6 cab over with a supercharged Mercury engine and a pretty stock 337 in an F-7 four wheel drive conversion. He reports the 337 out performs the blown Merc: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...l#post10631326

V8COOPMAN 02-07-2022 08:44 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Floored (Post 2102533)


Sounds almost like the dump truck that it likely came out of. DD
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51 MERC-CT 02-08-2022 04:52 AM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke3 (Post 2102538)
That is a sweet looking installation. I was trying to figure out how they did the radiator hose clamps on that thing, it looks like 0.032" safety wire to me.

It's done with a Clamptite tool. (been around for a number of years)
see here-------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NXVnmMjFk4

deuce lover 02-08-2022 04:59 AM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

1 Attachment(s)
Here is a nice one.

V8COOPMAN 02-08-2022 06:04 AM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke3 (Post 2102538)
That is a sweet looking installation. I was trying to figure out how they did the radiator hose clamps on that thing, it looks like 0.032" safety wire to me.

Below is what MIGHT be called a better video of the ClampTite Tool. Kind'a slick! DD

https://youtu.be/982bm_fEm7c


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/19...g?v=1536087729

Tim Ayers 02-08-2022 08:07 AM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Not sure. The Conforth team ran one in a period correct modified/sprint car at TROG and tore up the competition. Must have some value.

34PKUP 02-08-2022 09:05 AM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 2102616)
Below is what MIGHT be called a better video of the ClampTite Tool. Kind'a slick! DD

https://youtu.be/982bm_fEm7c


Na' we liked the video in post #13 better.

19Fordy 02-08-2022 10:08 AM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Na', #17 gives a lot more detailed info.

Phil G 02-08-2022 12:05 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

Thank you all
Now its back to looking for a 49 - 53 Ford Or mercury motor. Sounds to me like you all just saved me a lot of expense and trouble I don't need. I am just trying to put together a daily driver. 41 2 door Sudan very little rot. Most all of it is there.
Again Thank you for all of the help

Phil

Henry Floored 02-08-2022 02:43 PM

Re: 49 53 Lincoln motor
 

If you own the 337 Lincoln engine and are now not going to use it please put me on the list of interested parties.


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