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Dennis Pereira 11-10-2021 05:39 PM

Electrolysis Tank
 

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Working on a 7 tooth steering assembly heavy paint black / orange / yellow after a couple of hours paint is falling off . parts on the way so clean and get ready for paint . The bearings failed because of heavy waxy grease in box no lube getting to bearings .

Big hammer 11-10-2021 08:44 PM

Re: Electrolysis Tank
 

Looks like a well used tank! electrolysis I thought was for rust removal, must of had rust under the paint.

old ugly 11-10-2021 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Big hammer (Post 2075119)
Looks like a well used tank! electrolysis I thought was for rust removal, must of had rust under the paint.

this will remove or loosen up paint, grease, dirt as well as rust.
a good way to clean up parts, just takes a bit of time to work.
i like using this method.

Dennis Pereira 11-10-2021 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Big hammer (Post 2075119)
Looks like a well used tank! electrolysis I thought was for rust removal, must of had rust under the paint.

I use it to clean wheels also takes all the old paint off and rust a big box of arm @ Hammer washing soda in the mix .

bobbader 11-11-2021 07:44 AM

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This is great and I know this stuff has been posted and talked about before, but, for the benefit of those who are seeing it for the first time “in all it’s glory”, a little explanation of how this is hooked up, how it functions, and what supplies to use would be much easier than going through the SEARCH process.

Thanks, Bob Bader

rotorwrench 11-11-2021 09:14 AM

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Electrolysis may remove some paints depending on the chemical composition of the paint but many paints have to be removed with a methylene chloride or acidic based strippers.

Corrosion can be removed by electrolysis or through acidic exposure of various mild forms of acid. Evapo-Rust uses chelation for oxide removal and is environmentally safe.

Electrolysis can have a negative effect on structural steels due to hydrogen embrittlement but it largely depends on what the use of the part is whether it may cause a problem.

Kevin in NJ 11-11-2021 10:07 AM

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My experience with electrolytic rust removal.

Some paints come off, some come off some and there is this red primer I run across that nothing wants to take off. Just a long time with sandblasting.

I found that a couple of days in a tank and you can cut sandblasting time on wheels in half or better. You mileage may vary depending paint, rust and such. I also do not have a tank large enough for a full wheel so I did half at a time so like 3 days or so per wheel.

I also found that you can get the rust that sticks the bolt in the bumper ends. Just put the end in the tank and let her go for a few days. Impossible suddenly frees up in no time.

FWIW, line of sight is less critical with ERR and if you get some carbon electrodes the parts come out cleaner.

Bob C 11-11-2021 10:27 AM

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Vince has some good information on his site.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/elec...cderusting.htm

Dennis Pereira 11-11-2021 10:43 AM

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I have 1 inch rebar hanging on the sides for anodes . I've cleaned Doors / wheels / splash shields / Hood sections / windshield frames / anything I can hang in the tank like Kevin said it speeds up sand blasting if needed . The arm and hammer washing soda also helps with oils and grease . You could do a whole frame in a swimming pool or a big hole lined with plastic lol . Also a good scrub brush and dish soap to remove slime rinse and back into the tank .

redmodelt 11-11-2021 01:32 PM

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Just don't use stainless-steel electrodes.

https://antique-engines.com/stainles...electrodes.htm
I have seen other reports that say the same thing.

Dennis Pereira 11-11-2021 03:00 PM

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Over night most of the paint and rust gone the ford black paint turns to slime and washes away . I'll let it go for a few more hours then metal prep to keep from flash rusting . Then rinse and scrub let dry and paint .

Synchro909 11-11-2021 04:33 PM

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Did you connect the steering column to the positive or the negative lead? I assume you used a battery charger for this.

Dennis Pereira 11-11-2021 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 2075355)
Did you connect the steering column to the positive or the negative lead? I assume you used a battery charger for this.

Negative to the part positive to anodes / scrape steel I had the column hanging with string / suspended . Yes a battery charger for power supply .

Dennis Pereira 11-11-2021 06:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big hammer (Post 2075119)
Looks like a well used tank! electrolysis I thought was for rust removal, must of had rust under the paint.

No rust under paint only where it was bare steel . When the black ford paint came off it was like new under the paint .

old ugly 11-12-2021 01:25 PM

Re: Electrolysis Tank
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 2075355)
Did you connect the steering column to the positive or the negative lead? I assume you used a battery charger for this.

this comes back to the old topic on which way the electrons travel.
negative towards the positive.


maybe H F was using his electrolysis tank when he built the model A?

Dennis Pereira 11-12-2021 02:07 PM

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First coat of paint on steering column Por 15. And Deck Lid into the tank .


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