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Shampipple 11-01-2021 06:56 AM

Master Cylinder bracket- 39 Pickup
 

I tore my truck down to the frame last night. The Master Cylinder bracket is busted off.

Does anyone know of a source for a replacement? Someone with a junk frame, or upgraded brakes? I know I can fab one, but would rather just find a replacement.


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62pan 11-01-2021 08:07 AM

Re: Master Cylinder bracket- 39 Pickup
 

The master cylinder bracket is part of the brake and clutch. Those are not that hard to find. Should be some in the swap section or ebay.

Shampipple 11-01-2021 08:39 AM

Re: Master Cylinder bracket- 39 Pickup
 

Not on my truck. It is riveted to the frame.


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rich b 11-01-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shampipple (Post 2072156)
Not on my truck. It is riveted to the frame.


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Maybe post some pictures to see what you have going on; because riveted on is not at all normal for Ford.

Shampipple 11-01-2021 09:37 AM

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e6c3bebf7d.jpg
Brake and clutch pivot


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Shampipple 11-01-2021 09:38 AM

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...913be4bf06.jpg
What’s left of the bracket. You can see the Clevis for the plunger rod.


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Shampipple 11-01-2021 09:42 AM

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9b420233a8.jpg
Better pic of lever and bracket remnants.


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Shampipple 11-01-2021 09:44 AM

Re: Master Cylinder bracket- 39 Pickup
 

I may have just answered my own question. I see that support has two holes in it. I’m guessing someone used that for the master?


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Shampipple 11-01-2021 09:48 AM

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I am wondering if this is a 38 frame with a home brewed hydraulic setup.


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Mart 11-01-2021 11:51 AM

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^^ Yes, it looks like that is the case. The frame and pedals are pre-hydraulic. It might be easier to find a 39 pedal assembly. If you can't find an original one they are available new repro.
Mart.

Shampipple 11-01-2021 12:02 PM

Re: Master Cylinder bracket- 39 Pickup
 

I just purchased what I hope is an original.


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38bill 11-01-2021 12:57 PM

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If you have a '39 commercial car frame (1/2T) the '39 pedal assembly should fit right in. If its a '38 frame there are modifications that need to be done. Look for the vin number on the top of the frame, drivers side, about 12" forward of the firewall and that will tell you what you have.

Shampipple 11-01-2021 01:25 PM

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Thanks Bill


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V8COOPMAN 11-01-2021 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shampipple (Post 2072194)
I just purchased what I hope is an original.


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This is an original '39 set of pedals. The bracket AND EACH pedal will have a "91A-" prefix in the number on each piece of '39 pedals. DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1411571338

Disassembled


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7&d=1485279076

Shampipple 11-01-2021 02:08 PM

Re: Master Cylinder bracket- 39 Pickup
 

It’s a 38 frame. 39 body. 39 juice brakes on the axles.

What will I need to modify to adapt to 39 pedals? Cut the frame?


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1939mars 11-01-2021 03:06 PM

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Don't know if these will help or not but here they are just in case...

38bill 11-01-2021 03:09 PM

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You will need to enlarge the hole that the clutch/brake shaft goes through now. Below is a template that should help. You will find that the '39 clutch pedal will hit the '38 frame when fully depressed. The '39 frame has a dimple where the clutch arm contacts the frame. You should heat and form one similar so the clutch pedal has full travel. The clutch arm on the transmission will need to be able to reach the pedal linkage that is now farther to the left. There are some offset arms available but I just made up a new longer shaft and used the stock arm. Of course you will need to install a hydraulic brake light switch.

My '39 pedals lined up perfectly with the metal floorboard.

38bill 11-01-2021 03:13 PM

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Here is what mine look like installed.

'38 frame/ '39 pedals

Shampipple 11-01-2021 03:57 PM

Re: Master Cylinder bracket- 39 Pickup
 

You guys are the best! I really appreciate it.

I’m not new to building cars/machines/tractors etc. Just new to flatheads- I wound up with the 39 pickup, a 50 shoebox, and a 49 parts car within the last year.


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V8COOPMAN 11-01-2021 05:15 PM

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It sort of looks like you have a pedal assembly already installed, WITH a master cylinder MOUNTED. A '39 assembly would almost surely bolt-in once you remove what is there. Clutch linkage looks just like '39. I see what looks like a '38 "CABLE BRAKE" sheath indicating that truck likely is a '38, and NOT '39.

Is the serial number stamped on the frame rail LOWER than 18-4,661,001?

DD

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