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LPrevolt 08-30-2021 09:03 PM

Model A police car pictures needed
 

Hi All... First post here. I have a 1931 Model A that was used as a Police Car in Georgia way back when. I am restoring it and I need Pictures or information on what was used on the car (like a star on the doors, etc) way back then. I have tried to get info but to no avail from Atlanta Police. All I know is Georgia Patrol wasn't founded until 1937. I Live in O.C. CA and I was even going to use their Sheriff emblem here, but they claim they had nothing on cars until 1958. My Model A is similar to the police car rammed in the Bonnie and Clyde Movie getaway scene - but that is Texas / Missouri area in the Movie, and might not even be a "real" look. Any suggestions on what to do or how to find out that stuff for my car? I have posted a picture of my Model A in my Photo Album... Thanks

LPrevolt 08-30-2021 09:07 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/album...ictureid=44055

Brian SATX 08-30-2021 09:28 PM

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Was it used as a police or sheriff car. Do you know what agency? If so, contact them.

[email protected] 08-30-2021 09:58 PM

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WTSHNN 08-30-2021 10:37 PM

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What body style?

In the Model A era most police cars were not fancy paint schemes with graphics and emblems. While a lot of people today paint them in two-tone saddle shoe schemes those just weren't the regular style for cash strapped departments during the depression. Hand painted lettering with the department name and maybe a car number was about all you got.

-Tim

Chicago, these phaetons were either painted yellow or orange, depending on the source.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1630380851


NYC
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1630380987

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...3&d=1630381239

This is probably the most dramatic color scheme on a car of the era. New Mexico supposedly had copper colored cars but that doesn't come out in the pictures.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...2&d=1630380987

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WTSHNN 08-30-2021 10:51 PM

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How do you know your car was originally a police car?

In '31 police departments could order the so call "police head" which was a high compression head. There was also an option for a low speed generator that would put out more power at idle to help power radio equipment. You should check to see if your car has either.

I see now that your picture didn't show up (looks like you cut off the "h" of "http".

You have a '31 Tudor.

Here's an example of one.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...4&d=1630381875

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-Tim

77Birdman 08-31-2021 06:45 AM

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Its your car do what makes you happy and what you will enjoy. For me I think the black and white with the huge star is kinda kitchy. Like you have found in your research they just werent made that way back then. I do like some of the period photos that show a more subdued vehicle.

CatMan1 08-31-2021 07:10 AM

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Researching this over the years (I once restored a 1947 Chevy as a patrol car) it seems to me that there really weren't any hard and fast rules to it. It varied from state to state and department to department. You would even see convertibles! The big thing, in my mind, would be keep it simple. They didn't have a lot of 'flash' to them. You referenced 'Bonnie & Clyde' in the Joplin shoot-out scene. That's probably a good example. Also there is a brief car chase in 'O Brother Where Art Thou'. Beyond this......it's your car and you need to make it in a way that makes you smile every time you see it! Good luck and post lots of pictures!

chrs1961815 08-31-2021 08:17 AM

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If you know the department or general area, do some research and see if you can find some old photos from the historical society.

LPrevolt 09-12-2021 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WTSHNN (Post 2051451)
How do you know your car was originally a police car?

In '31 police departments could order the so call "police head" which was a high compression head. There was also an option for a low speed generator that would put out more power at idle to help power radio equipment. You should check to see if your car has either.

"You have a '31 Tudor.

Here's an example of one."

-Tim

Hi, new to this response and posting... Thanks to All who helped so far...
My Car is similar to that Pictured, but with a Spotlight where many put signal lights on the Driver side... All I know is it was used by Georgia Patrol as late as 1976 because of a sticker on the windshield stating such... But that agency wasn't around until 1937 - so looking for anything in Atlanta (GA's Biggest city) from 1931 emblem for Police or Sheriff if there was such a thing on their Police cars, but I do really like your Picture you have on here... close to what I seek. Thanks

LPrevolt 09-12-2021 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WTSHNN (Post 2051443)
What body style?

In the Model A era most police cars were not fancy paint schemes with graphics and emblems. While a lot of people today paint them in two-tone saddle shoe schemes those just weren't the regular style for cash strapped departments during the depression. Hand painted lettering with the department name and maybe a car number was about all you got.

-Tim
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Very Cool Pictures, Thanks a ton.
I was hoping to find something that would give me a real feel (I love history and things "authentic" but finding little thus far... I have called Atlanta main archive library... waiting to see what they have. Seems the Jimmy Cagney Movies are more what I am looking for than what existed in reality back then for most police cars... LOL - Here is another attempt to put my picture on here... Thanks to ALL. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=44055

LPrevolt 09-12-2021 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CatMan1 (Post 2051522)
Researching this over the years (I once restored a 1947 Chevy as a patrol car) it seems to me that there really weren't any hard and fast rules to it. It varied from state to state and department to department. You would even see convertibles! The big thing, in my mind, would be keep it simple. They didn't have a lot of 'flash' to them. You referenced 'Bonnie & Clyde' in the Joplin shoot-out scene. That's probably a good example. Also there is a brief car chase in 'O Brother Where Art Thou'. Beyond this......it's your car and you need to make it in a way that makes you smile every time you see it! Good luck and post lots of pictures!

Thanks, I will heed your words if I can't find any authentic information from Atlanta Archives... Meanwhile here is another Picture I have of my Car from a side view. Thanks to All https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=44056

LPrevolt 09-12-2021 03:11 AM

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Hi All, I'm toying around with making my own "STAR" for the car...
but I wasn't too impressed with this 1st attempt.
Any Suggestions on how it could be made to look more realist
for the 1931 time era? Thanks
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=44094

mercman from oz 09-12-2021 04:41 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1631439602
1929 Ford Model A Police Paddy Wagon - Chicago Police.

mercman from oz 09-12-2021 04:47 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1631439602
1929 Ford Model A Police Paddy Wagon - Chicago Police.

mercman from oz 09-12-2021 04:48 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1631439821
1930 Ford Model A Police Patrol Wagon - Chicago Police.

mercman from oz 09-12-2021 04:51 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1631440216
1930 Ford Model A Police Patrol Van.

mercman from oz 09-12-2021 05:01 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1631440818
Ford Model A Coupe Police Car - Penn College.

katy 09-12-2021 11:47 AM

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When I was a child the police "paddy wagons" were called black Marias. Don' ask me why as I dunno.

LPrevolt 09-20-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 2055655)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1631440818
Ford Model A Coupe Police Car - Penn College.

I really like this Police coup... It is in the style I think my Tudor should look like...


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