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Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 01:52 PM

Roadster Backfiring
 

I know this has been discussed a bunch of times. I’ve read through many of the related threads but have not found a solution.

I rewired my roadster including the ignition. I also installed new plugs (gapped). Now it backfires really bad when I let off the throttle and going downhill under load. It didn't do this before. What can I do to fix this? What should I check?

chrs1961815 08-24-2021 02:23 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Does it backfire through the carb or the muffler?

Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 03:41 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrs1961815 (Post 2049274)
Does it backfire through the carb or the muffler?

Through the muffler.

Big hammer 08-24-2021 03:47 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

GAV adjusted to lean, intake leaking, carburetor float set to low

ETAModel 08-24-2021 03:51 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

I am new to the A, and got lots of advice on where to set the Gav. Also was trying to improve my mpg. When I closed the Gav too much she would backfire every time I got off the foot feed.
Sounds like you have the same problem. Try opening the Gav. And see what happens.

Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 04:23 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETAModel (Post 2049297)
I am new to the A, and got lots of advice on where to set the Gav. Also was trying to improve my mpg. When I closed the Gav too much she would backfire every time I got off the foot feed.
Sounds like you have the same problem. Try opening the Gav. And see what happens.

Doesn’t that sound opposite? Doesn’t that make it even more rich?

Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 04:31 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Also, I don’t understand why that would be different now when all I have done was replace plugs and wiring.

noboD 08-24-2021 04:34 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

How old is the gas?

Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 04:41 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by noboD (Post 2049313)
How old is the gas?

About a week old.

Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 04:50 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETAModel (Post 2049297)
I am new to the A, and got lots of advice on where to set the Gav. Also was trying to improve my mpg. When I closed the Gav too much she would backfire every time I got off the foot feed.
Sounds like you have the same problem. Try opening the Gav. And see what happens.

The only logic I can see with this is that running too lean makes your engine run hotter. Maybe that create more opportunities for combustion in your muffler.

jg61hawk 08-24-2021 05:06 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

You go to this thread post #4 and you start there... Get a carb rebuild by BUllock and then you have solved 99% fuel problems...
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...hlight=bullock
I have a rebuilt Bullock carb, GAV (oh the mystery GAV) is turned out about 1/2 and NEVER touched. My car did all sorts of crap before I got a real carb rebuilt by this guy... GAV, and all the rest are BS after the carb is restored to new.... they were made to run....I can't say enough about the difference in starting and running since my carb by Bullock.

Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 05:13 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by jg61hawk (Post 2049325)
You go to this thread post #4 and you start there... Get a carb rebuild by BUllock and then you have solved 99% fuel problems...
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...hlight=bullock
I have a rebuilt Bullock carb, GAV (oh the mystery GAV) is turned out about 1/2 and NEVER touched. My car did all sorts of crap before I got a real carb rebuilt by this guy... GAV, and all the rest are BS after the carb is restored to new.... they were made to run....

Not saying that a carb rebuild wouldn’t help… but it ran fine Sunday. I didn’t touch the carb and now it is backfiring really bad. I messed with the electrical. All associated ignition wiring and new plugs. I have gone back through the wiring but I didn’t see anything.

Jacksonlll 08-24-2021 05:37 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Make sure you don’t have an intake leak at manifold and carb flange. Make sure. Sometimes hard to find.

Synchro909 08-24-2021 07:14 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

All the symptoms of a leak in the intake tract somewhere. Something that hasn't been mentioned is the rotor button. They are known to track to earth and you can't see where. Try a known good one. Also check you are not getting the infamous Model A no 3/4 cross fire.

Tribalmonkey 08-24-2021 07:48 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

So I just drove it with the GAV open almost an extra full turn and it didn't backfire. I'm trying to make logic from that. Why would running richer be better? Why would running leaner cause backfire.

nkaminar 08-24-2021 08:33 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Nothing you did to the electrical caused the problem. The two are unrelated. You need to clean out the carburetor.

Lean will cause the backfiring. A jet or passage that is partially blocked in the carburetor will cause it to be lean. Opening the GAV will compensate for the blocked jet or passage.

nkaminar 08-24-2021 08:42 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

i think the backfiring when lean is because the combustion is not complete. Any combustion that does take place is hotter. So fuel and oxygen are pumped out into the exhaust system and ignite.

johnbuckley 08-25-2021 02:47 AM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

sorry wrong post.

Ernie Vitucci 08-25-2021 12:51 PM

Re: Roadster Backfiring
 

Good Morning...You might also have a condenser that is starting to go bad. They do this when they are about done...Get a good one (more expensive) the really cheep ones are not any good...Ernie in Arizona


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