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kursed30 05-17-2021 09:18 AM

Part Cleaning
 

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A friend of mine rebuilds old dirt bikes so I asked him to clean up an old carb that I had lying in a parts box. Here are some before and after pics. Pretty nice

alexiskai 05-17-2021 09:37 AM

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Hijacking this thread to ask: I recently purchased a '29 radiator apron that's straight, but has some paint and surface rust. Typically I would clean this with an abrasive wheel, but I was considering having a local shop media-blast it. Is that overkill? Could also go the paint-stripper route.

KGBnut 05-17-2021 10:35 AM

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He did a nice job. Any idea what methods he used?

kursed30 05-17-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KGBnut (Post 2017431)
He did a nice job. Any idea what methods he used?


I think it was a type of Hydro Blasting

McMimmcs 05-17-2021 10:39 AM

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What did he use to clean it ? It looks great!

katy 05-17-2021 11:08 AM

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FWIW, I had a 6 litre ultrasonic cleaner on my Christmas wish list but Santa ignored it. I figure one of those would make a good carburetor cleaner.

jb-ob 05-17-2021 11:48 AM

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Kursed, You have a good friend.

Alex, Media blasting is only to remove paint finishes, will not help with rust removal unless the shop will follow up with sand to clear the rust away.

BRENT in 10-uh-C 05-17-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jb-ob (Post 2017444)
Kursed, You have a good friend.

Alex, Media blasting is only to remove paint finishes, will not help with rust removal unless the shop will follow up with sand to clear the rust away.

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Originally Posted by alexiskai (Post 2017411)
Hijacking this thread to ask: I recently purchased a '29 radiator apron that's straight, but has some paint and surface rust. Typically I would clean this with an abrasive wheel, but I was considering having a local shop media-blast it. Is that overkill? Could also go the paint-stripper route.


Things have definitely changed over the years. It used be be that dad used play sand from the lumber yard to blast paint & rust away in the back yard. Now, the shop I use begins with plastic media to remove the paint, and then follows with aluminum oxide to remove any rust. Yes, any commercial paint stripper such as the Aircraft brand or the Orange Citrus will remove paint. Then clean thoroughly with water and use Rust911 or Evaporust to remove the rust. Try not to use an abrasive wheel as it removes metal too.

alexiskai 05-17-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C (Post 2017459)
Things have definitely changed over the years. It used be be that dad used play sand from the lumber yard to blast paint & rust away in the back yard. Now, the shop I use begins with plastic media to remove the paint, and then follows with aluminum oxide to remove any rust. Yes, any commercial paint stripper such as the Aircraft brand or the Orange Citrus will remove paint. Then clean thoroughly with water and use Rust911 or Evaporust to remove the rust. Try not to use an abrasive wheel as it removes metal too.

OK thanks.

JayJay 05-17-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alexiskai (Post 2017411)
Hijacking this thread to ask: I recently purchased a '29 radiator apron that's straight, but has some paint and surface rust. Typically I would clean this with an abrasive wheel, but I was considering having a local shop media-blast it. Is that overkill? Could also go the paint-stripper route.

A - My apron has the same, including some area underneath the radiator where a past leak caused paint to strip. Brent's method is what I was planning to use - CitrusStrip to remove the paint, Evaporust to treat the metal (three applications - one for each flat section), then prime and repaint. Media blast would work also but then you need to sand the metal to get it smooth for painting.

JayJay

alexiskai 05-17-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJay (Post 2017471)
A - My apron has the same, including some area underneath the radiator where a past leak caused paint to strip. Brent's method is what I was planning to use - CitrusStrip to remove the paint, Evaporust to treat the metal (three applications - one for each flat section), then prime and repaint. Media blast would work also but then you need to sand the metal to get it smooth for painting.

JayJay

That sounds like a plan, I'll do it that way.

Ak Sourdough 05-17-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alexiskai (Post 2017411)
Hijacking this thread to ask: I recently purchased a '29 radiator apron that's straight, but has some paint and surface rust. Typically I would clean this with an abrasive wheel, but I was considering having a local shop media-blast it. Is that overkill? Could also go the paint-stripper route.


Should have started another thread.

Oldbluoval 05-17-2021 02:04 PM

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I finally completed a electrostatic rust removal setup that I’d been contemplating and gathering the stuff for ages
It seemed to act as it should .....proper current bubbles etc
Left some pretty rusty stuff in for many hours
Unimpressed with results

jordan.jim50 05-21-2021 08:18 AM

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Rebuilt hundreds, soak in vinegar 2 days then sand blast, pick all openings and blow out with high pressure air...JD


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Tinbasher 05-21-2021 10:25 AM

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Yes, Strip the paint first. Then blast it. Paint stripper removes paint. Blasting removes rust. The two should never meet. Unless you want a warped mess.

Oldbluoval 05-21-2021 11:31 AM

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I’ve been using a “gator” disc. Lowe’s and Home Depot
It takes paint primer and filler off and doesn’t take metal.....if ones careful!
Occasionally see a few sparks but not much if you watch it
Goes pretty quickly
I just don’t like paint stripper....messy and if a speck is left it’s a problem

JayJay 05-21-2021 11:53 AM

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For cleaning my carb bodies I have been taking a multi-step approach:

  • Soak in ChemDip to remove tar and crap, soap and water scrub. Same thing with the internal parts.
  • Carefully bead blast avoiding gasket surfaces. Blow out with air.
  • Chase threaded fittings with appropriate sized taps. Careful to only remove crud, not metal
  • Chase all the air passages with 0.032" stainless wire (same stuff you can use as safety wire)
  • Soak in Evaporust to get rid of the final bits of embedded rust, soap and water scrub, blow out with air
  • Repaint outer surfaces with airplane dope
  • Lightly true up the big gasketed surface between upper and lower bodies on a granite plate using 220 wet-or-dry AlOx sandpaper

If necessary I also drill out and sleeve the throttle shaft housing after bead blasting.

Process seems to have worked well on the six Zeniths I've done. It would obviously vary for pot-metal bodied carbs like a Tillotson or Stromberg, I would not bead blast those.

JayJay

Y-Blockhead 05-21-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJay (Post 2018759)

Process seems to have worked well on the six Zeniths I've done. It would obviously vary for pot-metal bodied carbs like a Tillotson or Stromberg, I would not bead blast those.

JayJay

Thank you!! Goes for Marvel Schebler also. IMO bead blasting ruins the finish on these carbs and there is no need to as they don't rust.

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