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mgambuzza 12-05-2020 07:29 PM

Side Mirror Installation Question
 

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I ordered side mirrors so I don't inadvertently crush my fenders while backing blindly into the garage. They did arrive, but before I made mistakes, I wanted to get advice on how to remove the pin in the hinge, and install the new mirror and pin. I've included pictures of the current hinge, and the new mirror for reference. Can't believe with some of these suppliers that they don't include references or installation instructions on parts that they sell.

Mike Peters 12-05-2020 07:55 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ge+pin+removal

Some ideas. Hope yours isn't rusted in too much.

CC-Mo 12-05-2020 08:36 PM

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I installed what looks like the exact mirror you have. Drivers side. I was able to remove the pin after some oil soak/tapping pin from bottom. So, pick the oil of choice & let it sit for awhile & see how tough it's stuck. Hopefully it'll tap right out.

whirnot 12-06-2020 12:09 AM

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They make a pin removal tool, but I have always been able to drill them out if stuck too bad. Just have to be carefull

Bob Bidonde 12-06-2020 10:48 AM

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I find that the door hinge pins wear and become groved as shown in the exaggerated sketch. To date, I have used a rivet gun with a pointed bit to jack hammer the pins out. However, I would much prefer to use a controlled force tool to press the pins out.
To mount a hinge mirror, I replace the hinge pin with a bolt that protrudes about 0.38" above & below the hinge. The bolt head is cutoff, and the head end threaded to match the existing bolt threads. Open the holes in the mirror to suite the bolt. Mount the mirror using the custom bolt and hex nuts on each end. Use blue thread locker. Cover the hex nuts with chrome acorn nut covers.

The Master Cylinder 12-06-2020 11:29 AM

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Excellent sketch, Bob. I bet a lot of people fighting with the pin don't even consider the pin hanging up due to wear.

mgambuzza 12-06-2020 01:49 PM

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Good news - success! I used a punch after soaking the hinge in PB Blaster all night. It came out in one piece with no issue. It was a little bit of a challenge mounting the new (aligning the new bolt with the hinge) but with a little lithium grease it went in. Next will be the drivers side. Thanks for all the suggestions.

Y-Blockhead 12-06-2020 05:42 PM

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Good going. Just a small tip. I installed a 5" mirror head instead of the standard 4". Gives you a better view of where you have been... :p:p You wouldn't think 1" bigger would make much difference but it really helped me when backing up.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2447/3...f00e2dc385.jpg

KR500 12-06-2020 07:16 PM

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Before attempting a job like this confirm what diameter hinge pin you are dealing with. There are 9/32 pins for the slant windshield and I believe '31 Cabriolet and Victoria. Also there are replacement oversize pins for the 1/4 inch pins. The 5 inch mirrors are supplied with 1/4 bolt pins and are somewhat loose in the doors. I mounted those 5 inch mirrors on a members slant and turned up 9/32 diameter pins tapped at each end to 8-32 thread. Pins were sized exact length of door hinge plus .010. Threaded into hinge pins 8-32 set screw and then placed short 1/4 -20 short studs down into mirror ends and threaded on acorn nuts supplied with mirror.

rfitzpatrick 12-06-2020 07:28 PM

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Are you able to actually use your passengner-side mirror? If so, and mine is a PicUp, what's that part-numbers?
Thanks

Y-Blockhead 12-06-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KR500 (Post 1960161)
The 5 inch mirrors are supplied with 1/4 bolt pins and are somewhat loose in the doors.

I installed the 5" HEADS on the mirror stems that fit my car.

Dougs 28 12-06-2020 09:16 PM

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Here is a picture of the tool to get existing hing pin out, it also has different size pins that you will need to push out existing hinge pin. I picked it up at the early Ford store in San Dimas Ca. earlyfordstore.com

PalAl 12-06-2020 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead (Post 1960136)
Good going. Just a small tip. I installed a 5" mirror head instead of the standard 4". Gives you a better view of where you have been... :p:p You wouldn't think 1" bigger would make much difference but it really helped me when backing up.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2447/3...f00e2dc385.jpg

I too installed the 5" mirror head, it makes a huge difference for side and rear vision. No one notices the change.

Bill G 12-07-2020 12:45 AM

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I've been searching for a 5" convex mirror. I went to a 4" convex and I am pleased that it expands my field of view, but I would like to go bigger. Does anyone have a lead on t 5" convex?

katy 12-07-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rfitzpatrick (Post 1960165)
Are you able to actually use your passengner-side mirror? If so, and mine is a PicUp,

I had that problem, the mounting stud on the mirror was too short. I replaced both mirrors w/5" convex that had longer studs, allowing more adjusting room.

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Does anyone have a lead on t 5" convex?
https://truckpartsuperstore.ca/produ...SABEgLCZfD_BwE

father-son 12-07-2020 05:54 PM

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Congrats, you are very fortunate it came out that easy. Our 29 Tudor driver side pin removal was a nightmare. Lots of heat, PB and eventual drilling.

PalAl 12-07-2020 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill G (Post 1960246)
I've been searching for a 5" convex mirror. I went to a 4" convex and I am pleased that it expands my field of view, but I would like to go bigger. Does anyone have a lead on t 5" convex?

Bill, I GOOGLED 5 inch convex mirror and came up with a bunch of leads
I went with this place

https://www.bigrigchromeshop.com/con....html?show=999

Ed in Maine 12-08-2020 04:11 PM

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I just mounted mirrors on my Victoria (9/32 in. pins) and when I got the mirrors, the pins supplied were wrong. I found that I had to carefully drill out the mirror bracket to receive the 9/32 pins. But a further problem was that the 9/32 pins did not fit snugly in my door hinges. I purchased coiled pins that were slightly over sized and filed them down to fit my hinges. I chucked my pins into my drill press and filled them to fit. The advantage of the coiled pins over the solid pins is that they compress slightly to assist in maintaining at good fit into the hinge. The pins were then cut to length and I used a screw and acorn nut to simulate a domed top on the hinge pin. Ed

desotoguy 12-09-2020 07:59 AM

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Y-Blockhead, do you have a source for the amber cowl light lenses, would like to replace my clear lenses as the are used for turn signals and are more easily seen.

shew01 12-09-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by desotoguy (Post 1961036)
Y-Blockhead, do you have a source for the amber cowl light lenses, would like to replace my clear lenses as the are used for turn signals and are more easily seen.


I used these. They worked fine.

https://www.brattons.com/30-31amber-cowl-lens.html


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