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johnbuckley 08-23-2020 01:34 PM

Not a Ford , but what is it?
 

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Can someone ID this car ... we think it's a US made car and have had guesses.. but can anyone firmly ID?

700rpm 08-23-2020 02:55 PM

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I don’t know the make of the car, but I am fascinated by where and when that photo was taken.

john charlton 08-23-2020 03:53 PM

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My thoughts are it is a French car late twenties . France made RHD cars in this time frame . The picture most likely taken in West Africa ,French colony maybe Ivory Coast etc etc . The building in the background is not Caribbean but very West African The people are not Muslim so you can rule out Senegal I think .Just my thoughts .

John back from Somerset County now in Suffolk County .

1930-Pickup 08-23-2020 04:20 PM

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I've seen a front bumper just like that on a 1921 Stutz (see photo)

That's not to say that Stutz made that bumper, it could be that it was a popular aftermarket accessory. Many pre-1930 cars did not come from the factory with bumpers.

Lincoln used a similar bumper style too, I think.

California Charlie 08-23-2020 05:23 PM

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1929-1930 Lincoln???

rfitzpatrick 08-23-2020 06:03 PM

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[QUOTE=1930-Pickup;1923336]I've seen a front bumper just like that on a 1921 Stutz (see photo)

Is that a Jump-Seat on the running board?

dpson 08-23-2020 06:22 PM

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Looks like a circa 1923 Studebaker Big Six.

Digger 08-23-2020 06:44 PM

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Put the photo on AACA and someone will respond with exact make model and year within minutes...

Ruth 08-23-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dpson (Post 1923377)
Looks like a circa 1923 Studebaker Big Six.

It surely does. Wow, nice car.

Dodge 08-24-2020 01:17 AM

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I agree with dpson

mercman from oz 08-24-2020 03:22 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1598207632
Here is a larger picture of the car in question.

mercman from oz 08-24-2020 03:25 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1598257408
DPSON was 100% correct in identifying this mystery car as a 1923 Studebaker Big Six Touring Car. Compare the two pictures.

johnbuckley 08-24-2020 04:38 AM

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Thank you Fordbarners.. It must definintely be a Stduebaker Big 6. and a point also for John Charlton as further info has come to light that the photo was indeed taken in either Nigeria or Benin , West Africa!

Patrick L. 08-24-2020 05:52 AM

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Looks like an early 20s Studebaker to me too.

john charlton 08-24-2020 07:22 AM

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I vote for Benin which was a French colony up to 1960. Large high quality USA made cars were very popular in Europe certainly in France more than England I think .About 20 years ago I was a guest at a French wedding . The bridal car was a large open car it was a Berliet . Just prior to the wedding it broke down ,missing on one cylinder . Everything was tried but no go . I was invited to help as it was known I had an interest in "old cars" . No compression so I took the valve chest door off to find a valve had lost its keeper collett .No sign of the collett which no doubt was now in the oil pan . The bridal chateau had a small workshop where I got a suitable "cut floor nail" . It was luckily the right height and width to fit the valve stem keeper slot then I cut it to length. I prised up the dished keeper retainer and got the nail in and seated and back on all cylinders . The engine looked very American to me I grew up in South Africa and elderly American cars were common . I remarked to the owner who told me the car was mostly Dodge Brothers built under licence from Dodge .The owner was very pleased and I did get to kiss the bride !!!

John in Suffolk County England .

dpson 08-24-2020 07:51 AM

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I should explain that at one time I owned a 1924 Studebaker Light Six touring car, so had a bit of an advantage in identifying this one.

Hoogah 08-24-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by john charlton (Post 1923594)
I vote for Benin which was a French colony up to 1960. Large high quality USA made cars were very popular in Europe certainly in France more than England I think .About 20 years ago I was a guest at a French wedding . The bridal car was a large open car it was a Berliet . Just prior to the wedding it broke down ,missing on one cylinder . Everything was tried but no go . I was invited to help as it was known I had an interest in "old cars" . No compression so I took the valve chest door off to find a valve had lost its keeper collett .No sign of the collett which no doubt was now in the oil pan . The bridal chateau had a small workshop where I got a suitable "cut floor nail" . It was luckily the right height and width to fit the valve stem keeper slot then I cut it to length. I prised up the dished keeper retainer and got the nail in and seated and back on all cylinders . The engine looked very American to me I grew up in South Africa and elderly American cars were common . I remarked to the owner who told me the car was mostly Dodge Brothers built under licence from Dodge .The owner was very pleased and I did get to kiss the bride !!!

John in Suffolk County England .


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Terry, NJ 08-24-2020 09:48 AM

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Dodge was my first choice because of the disc wheels, but it wasn't quite Dodge. Then I got to the Studebaker. Having worked with a 1922 Studebaker, I, too, decided it was more of a Stude than a Dodge. Where oh where is that car today?
Terry

Patrick L. 08-24-2020 11:22 AM

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I have something similar in the barn. '18 EG. 2 owner vehicle.[ well actually 3, but, family sold it new and got it back in the 30's]

Same type car you see in the pics of the 1924 NYC auto show with 475,000 trouble free miles.


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