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rhphotord 04-29-2020 10:19 AM

Flat head RPM range
 

Can any one give me what is considered a safe comfortable rpm range for a stock 42 flathead? Running a 4:11 gear set presently and rpm seems high at highway speeds. Love to install 3:78 gear set but not in the budget as of yet unless one falls into my lap at the right price.

deuce_roadster 04-29-2020 10:54 AM

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My 40 wagon (heavy car) has 4.11s and a small 221 ci stock engine. I don't drive it over 50 on the freeway as I don't want to over rev it. There is a Columbia in its future. I don't have a tachometer just going by sound.

drolston 04-29-2020 11:27 AM

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Highway cruising in the 2500+- range is economical and does not sound strained. You may need to go to 3.54 gears to get that at 60 mph.

deuce_roadster 04-29-2020 11:40 AM

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My avatar has 3.54s and is about 2600 at 60 mph. No worries on that engine though. drolston is correct.

ford38v8 04-29-2020 06:50 PM

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I had a 4.44 in my Ford when I first bought it, and kept up with the traffic at 65mph, although with a frown on my face. The flathead won't redline with a stock distributor, because you'll get point float first.


Edit: I should mention that my engine is a 59L, so it may be higher reving than others.

JSeery 04-29-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rhphotord (Post 1881043)
Can any one give me what is considered a safe comfortable rpm range for a stock 42 flathead? Running a 4:11 gear set presently and rpm seems high at highway speeds. Love to install 3:78 gear set but not in the budget as of yet unless one falls into my lap at the right price.

You can calculate the engine rpm, it is fairly simple math, all you need is the rear axle ratio (which you have) and the rear tire diameter.

RPM = (Rear Axle Ratio x MPH x 336.13) / Tire Diameter

As an example

(4.11 x 65 x 336.13) / 29 = 3096 RPM

That is not that may RPM. Original Torque/HP curves go to a bit of 4,000.

HDowse 04-29-2020 07:29 PM

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Here's a calculator I have used to check RPMs at different speeds/differential ratios:
http://www.advanced-ev.com/Calculators/TireSize/

tubman 04-29-2020 09:27 PM

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On my '51, with a slightly modified Mercury engine (Rochester 2G, Edmunds heads, and a Mallory dual point), anything above 2700-2800 starts to get uncomfortable. For me, with the tire size/ rear end ratio I have, that allows me to cruise about 65-70. It will easily go higher than that, and will run over 4000 "going through the gears".

I do not like running it over 4000. It doesn't seem to do any good anyway.

ford38v8 04-30-2020 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tubman (Post 1881382)
On my '51, with a slightly modified Mercury engine (Rochester 2G, Edmunds heads, and a Mallory dual point), anything above 2700-2800 starts to get uncomfortable. For me, with the tire size/ rear end ratio I have, that allows me to cruise about 65-70. It will easily go higher than that, and will run over 4000 "going through the gears".

I do not like running it over 4000. It doesn't seem to do any good anyway.


Where we're all headed, it's more fun to try and get there faster! :cool:

big job 04-30-2020 08:26 AM

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Then on the other hand my father bought a new F6 in Jan 1951 a leftover. Factory
governor says Ford on it probably made by King Seely. Governed at 3000 and yes
still has the 'lead seal' its a dump truck and will do 60 empty and just nurse the gas
pedal and it may just nick 62. Its purpose was only to kick it up momentarily to the
governor then shift it. Got a hard time that people need that 65 70 in any vehicle,
now, like from the 1950s 60s when many states with no speed limit. Around here in
Masshole takes you 20 min to go a mile in a half. Model T is perfect and I don't live in
a city either.

rhphotord 04-30-2020 05:58 PM

Re: Flat head RPM range
 

I purposly installed a tachometer to monitor shift points on the flattie. Runs out to 4500 quickly in first gear and with the 4:11 and can practically start in second. At 4500 am I pushing the envelope so to speak? Thoughts?
Frankly at 55mph plus the old girl makes me kind of nervous but then again I'm used to driving my 34 street rod with modern independent suspension and disc brakes. Just saying!
Tomorrow I run the flathead out to 50 plus to check rpm's

Kurt in NJ 04-30-2020 06:29 PM

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The 39 with the 60hp (4:44 rear) didn't mind going 65, though it did bring the fuel mileage just under 20 mpg, kept to 55 it was 25 mpg----- and downshifted to second when speed on hills dropped to 40, the 60 hp needs to be above 2500 sometimes, and drove it over 70 on the parkway to keep up with traffic and get a head start on the next hill

tubman 04-30-2020 09:27 PM

Re: Flat head RPM range
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhphotord (Post 1881820)
I purposly installed a tachometer to monitor shift points on the flattie. Runs out to 4500 quickly in first gear and with the 4:11 and can practically start in second. At 4500 am I pushing the envelope so to speak? Thoughts?
Frankly at 55mph plus the old girl makes me kind of nervous but then again I'm used to driving my 34 street rod with modern independent suspension and disc brakes. Just saying!
Tomorrow I run the flathead out to 50 plus to check rpm's

This interests me. I have to ask : is this a stock or modified engine? My Mercury (with a stock cam) falls on it's face at anything over 4000. It'll rev higher, but unless you are already in high, grabbing the next gear is a lot more productive.

KGS 05-01-2020 06:47 AM

Re: Flat head RPM range
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhphotord (Post 1881820)
I purposly installed a tachometer to monitor shift points on the flattie. Runs out to 4500 quickly in first gear and with the 4:11 and can practically start in second. At 4500 am I pushing the envelope so to speak? Thoughts?
Frankly at 55mph plus the old girl makes me kind of nervous but then again I'm used to driving my 34 street rod with modern independent suspension and disc brakes. Just saying!
Tomorrow I run the flathead out to 50 plus to check rpm's

Here's a link to a chart on Van Pelt's site that shows the relationship of torque to horsepower and othings of interest as well.
Ken

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/F...39-40_85hp.jpg


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