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gavinnz 02-26-2019 07:30 PM

Bought three Flathead V8 engines yesterday
 

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I went to see a friend today and after a few hours of looking at old engines and talking we did a deal and I have bought all his Ford flathead V8 engines. I plan to build one good one from the three to power a 1930's New Zealand built wooden barrel back, V stern speedboat I have to restore.

I would love some help getting the engines years and types nailed down.

1. "the car engine" Pulled from a twin spinner car. Number "RE2 92" stamped on block face.... 24 bolt. Has on 8BA cast on one head and EAC on the other. (head swaped for Merc head??) Made in Canada. Side dizzi.

2. "the truck engine" Pulled from a bus. Number "RE2 71" stamped on block, both heads have 8RT on them, so truck? Made in Canada. Side dizzi.

3. "Rust ball engine" 24 stud, water outlet in middle of heads, front dizzi mount. Built in bell housing. Only good for parts if I am lucky. Seriously rusty.

Any clues there? I was figuring 1952 for 1 and 2??
Regards
Gavin
New Zealand

cas3 02-26-2019 08:34 PM

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there is a very good engine id thread running now. go back a day or so, "block id" i believe is the title. good luck with the motors, and whats a "twin spinner" ?

V8ER 02-26-2019 08:40 PM

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'51 Ford grille is a twin spinner.

cas3 02-26-2019 08:43 PM

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i had a 50 once, i guess i had a single spinner and never knew it!

alanwoodieman 02-26-2019 09:19 PM

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rustball engine appears to be late 38 thru 41 engine. 24 stud, pencil ledge above timing cover, different years have slight variables

alanwoodieman 02-26-2019 09:21 PM

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look on here for the boat motor vs industrial motor thread, you need that motor!

gavinnz 02-26-2019 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alanwoodieman (Post 1731119)
look on here for the boat motor vs industrial motor thread, you need that motor!

Than for the tip, I had seen that and I tried to message the seller to see if he would sell the exhaust manifolds but I got an error message.
I can make my own wet exhaust manifolds anyway... old ones will need work especially if they had been in salt water.

gavinnz 02-26-2019 09:29 PM

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rustball engine appears to be late 38 thru 41 engine. 24 stud, pencil ledge above timing cover, different years have slight variables

I will try and put up another photo of the front s the distributor drive might help date it too....

Mike in AZ 02-26-2019 10:52 PM

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Welcome to the ‘Barn. Post some pics of your project as you progress. Sounds like fun. Mike

gavinnz 02-26-2019 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike in AZ (Post 1731135)
Welcome to the ‘Barn. Post some pics of your project as you progress. Sounds like fun. Mike

Thanks for the welcome Mike! :)

Tim Ayers 02-26-2019 11:19 PM

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Twin pulley water pumps is big truck.

The one in the middle is leading me to believe it's a '48 truck motor due to the 8BA style block but use of head studs. This was the only series of 8BA style blocks that used studs.

gavinnz 02-26-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 1731149)
Twin pulley water pumps is big truck.

The one in the middle is leading me to believe it's a '48 truck motor due to the 8BA style block but use of head studs. This was the only series of 8BA style blocks that used studs.

That's really interesting!! I was wondering why it had studs and not bolts on that block... it came from a 1952 bus but who knows what it was fitting from new... you might have it there.

gavinnz 02-27-2019 12:42 AM

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Went mad and bought 5 books on rebuilding and hotting up the flathead! They should be here in a few days.... no substitute for the right information!

gavinnz 02-27-2019 01:37 AM

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The "truck motor" with the studs, is Canadian made and has "C1BA" cast in razed letters on the back of the engine just behind the right head above where the bell housing goes on... a web page listing Canadian production as that casting meaning 1951....
I wonder if the Canadian engines used the studs longer than USA built motors?
Or mine have been changed??

gavinnz 02-27-2019 02:09 AM

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The motor with the bolts "the car motor" is also "C1BA" block casting number....

gavinnz 02-27-2019 04:22 AM

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I love learning new things so I am having great fun here... I have spent all day and all yesterday reading about Flatheads. Lots to learn! I was just reading about fitting the crab type distributor on the later 8BA block.... I like that idea. I might have to hunt up the parts I need. Some of which I might be able to get off my "rust ball" engine?? Was that a crab originally? Fingers crossed the cam might be OK in there also.... if I can use that one for the conversion..?

gavinnz 02-27-2019 05:29 AM

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I think I have found more clues on the "ball of rust" engine...
It fits this description of a Model 29A engine built from 1942 to 45....
"Crab-Style distributor, water outlet on center of cylinder head, passes pencil test"

corvette8n 02-27-2019 06:43 AM

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http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...85to100mid.htm
This may help identify your early block, lots of good info on this site.
Welcome to the barn.

skidmarks 02-27-2019 07:22 AM

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rusty motor looks like the distributor itself is cast iron

alanwoodieman 02-27-2019 08:21 AM

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could be a LUCAS distributor as they were on some engines during the war years from Canada


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