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scicala 08-10-2018 04:51 PM

Fiction or Fact ?
 

Can anyone say if Ford ever built an early Falcon with the 144 six cylinder engine and an automatic transmission ? I saw one advertised, but they said the engine was replaced and the air cleaner had a "144" sticker on it.


I always heard they didn't build this combination, because with the auto trans, it didn't have enough power to make it up the car hauler ramps without a running start at the assembly plant.


Sal

dmsfrr 08-10-2018 05:07 PM

Re: Fiction or Fact ?
 

Here's a link to the Options page of a '60 Falcon brochure. It shows the 144 engine, and an automatic was optional.
It's also shown on the following Specifications page.
The text may have been written before actual production or release of the car,
it has a printing date of 8-59
http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stati...re/image6.html

This Spec's page of a '60 Falcon Booklet (print date 2-60) also shows the 144 engine and optional automatic.
http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stati...et/image7.html

1960 Ford brochure index...
http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stati.../dirindex.html

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KULTULZ 08-10-2018 07:59 PM

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Yes, the 144 was the forerunner of the 170/200.


The AT was a F/M/2 aluminum case actual two speed.

Herman Munster 08-10-2018 08:18 PM

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It came with a 3.56 rear end so they should have been able to drive it up a ramp, worst case in reverse.

Alaska Jim 08-11-2018 02:55 AM

Re: Fiction or Fact ?
 

My parents had a '64 Falcon wagon. The bought it sometime in early '66. I think from Ralph Williams Ford dealership, in Encino, Ca. It had an automatic , and I am pretty sure it was the 144. I drove it a few times. was a pretty gutless car, but it was what the family needed and could afford. mom, dad, and 5 kids and at least one dog.

streetdreams 08-11-2018 06:12 AM

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No 144 in '64. The auto in the early Falcons was air cooled.

scicala 08-11-2018 07:25 PM

Re: Fiction or Fact ?
 

Thanks all for the info everyone. What I heard years ago must have just been a tall tale or exaggeration from a story teller. Don't think I would ever want something that enemic though.


Sal

Oldmics 08-11-2018 08:35 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
Stumbled across this and couldnt resist.


Just for you Sal !

mercman from oz 08-12-2018 05:00 AM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1534067834
Here is the Specification Page from the original sales Brochure for the 1960 Ford Falcon. You can see that the 144 Six was offered with the optional Fordomatic 2 speed automatic transmission.

scicala 08-12-2018 10:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldmics (Post 1662115)
Stumbled across this and couldnt resist.


Just for you Sal !





Thank you John,


That is about the kind of stunt I would try to pull when a youngster !


Sal

scicala 08-12-2018 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mercman from oz (Post 1662182)
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1534067834
Here is the Specification Page from the original sales Brochure for the 1960 Ford Falcon. You can see that the 144 Six was offered with the optional Fordomatic 2 speed automatic transmission.




Thank you Mercman,


Sal

Herman Munster 08-12-2018 01:11 PM

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Are you interested in buying one? Here's a thread on hot rodding one.
A common consensus is to swap one for a 200 or 250.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...ford-6.145129/

scicala 08-12-2018 04:41 PM

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Not me. I was just curious.


Sal

Herman Munster 08-12-2018 05:09 PM

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Well then it looks like all this might end up becoming useful for someone who will.

mercman from oz 08-12-2018 05:26 PM

Re: Fiction or Fact ?
 

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1534112611
Here is an enlarger version of the Specifications for the 1960 Ford Falcon. It is easier to read than my earlier Post.

rotorwrench 08-12-2018 05:37 PM

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The 2-speed aluminum case F/M came in in 1959 and was used in light duty applications in that year. It replaced the last of the old 3-speed single range small case FOM transmissions. The first 1960 Falcon and Comet cars would have had it as an option with the 144 6-cylinder.

The 144 CID 6-cylinder was all that was offered in 1960 for the Falcon & Comet cars. The 170 came along in 1961 but the 144 hung in there for a few more years. My Pop purchased a new 144 Comet in 1960 and he traded it off in 1962 for a Meteor with the 260 V8. The 144 was such a dog that he just couldn't take it any more.

scicala 08-13-2018 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Herman Munster (Post 1662451)
Well then it looks like all this might end up becoming useful for someone who will.





I do like '60 Falcon two doors or Ranchero's, but not with a 144" six.


Sal

scicala 08-13-2018 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rotorwrench (Post 1662465)
The 2-speed aluminum case F/M came in in 1959 and was used in light duty applications in that year. It replaced the last of the old 3-speed single range small case FOM transmissions. The first 1960 Falcon and Comet cars would have had it as an option with the 144 6-cylinder.

The 144 CID 6-cylinder was all that was offered in 1960 for the Falcon & Comet cars. The 170 came along in 1961 but the 144 hung in there for a few more years. My Pop purchased a new 144 Comet in 1960 and he traded it off in 1962 for a Meteor with the 260 V8. The 144 was such a dog that he just couldn't take it any more.





Thanks Rotorwrench,


I never realized the 170" six wasn't available for the first year Falcons. So all '60 Falcons were pretty much dogs whether they has a manual or auto trans.


Sal

Alaska Jim 08-14-2018 12:45 AM

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I guess I was wrong thinking the old mans Falcon wagon had the 144. It must have been the 177, it was still pretty gutless. It has been a long time since those days, and my memory is not that good. I can still picture the car and the eng.. The family took a lot of long trips in that wagon. It always got us there and back.

bobss396 08-14-2018 08:43 AM

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My aunt had a '60 with the 144 and automatic. It was pretty anemic from what I recall of it.


http://oldcarbrochures.org/index.php...Ford-Falcon-12


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