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abbie 12-14-2017 09:42 PM

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I have converted my A to 12 volts. I am planning to install one of the light weight mini starters that requires a solenoid to be added. If anyone has installed one, I would appreciate describing where you put the solenoid and the starter switch, and what type switch you recommend.

thank you in advance

hardtimes 12-15-2017 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by abbie (Post 1566230)
I have converted my A to 12 volts. I am planning to install one of the light weight mini starters that requires a solenoid to be added. If anyone has installed one, I would appreciate describing where you put the solenoid and the starter switch, and what type switch you recommend.

thank you in advance

Check such starters out on ebay. The one that I got is high torque gear drive...with solenoid built in. Nice unit.

BRENT in 10-uh-C 12-15-2017 09:59 AM

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Mr. Prince, call me.

Charlie Stephens 12-15-2017 11:25 AM

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It may just be me but I like the look of the original starter. Have one converted to 12 volts, it will probably be cheaper in the long run.

Charlie Stepehns

Y-Blockhead 12-15-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 1566451)
It may just be me but I like the look of the original starter. Have one converted to 12 volts, it will probably be cheaper in the long run.

Charlie Stepehns

I agree, the mini starter, like an alternator, look out of place on a Model A engine.

Actually not hard to convert an original one yourself if you have a heavy duty soldering iron. The 12v field coils are available thru the vendors OR if you have two good 6v starters you can make two 12v starters.

Flathead 12-15-2017 12:23 PM

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They don't sound right either.

Jw 12-15-2017 12:24 PM

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you can utilize the 6 volt, been using the 6 volt with a 12 volt conversion, you just cant continually energize the motor as it will damage it, the engine should start within 5 seconds, been using this application on my 28 Tudor for 20 years with no issue.
+ or - ground, the motor does not care, from my experience. The purest may disagree but that's cool.

Beater 12-15-2017 02:55 PM

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ive converted to 12v neg ground aswell on my lil speedster. did nothing to the starter. works fine but when rebuild time comes , if it comes, ill rebuild to 12v specs

BRENT in 10-uh-C 12-15-2017 04:29 PM

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GEEZ, these comments and suggestions are hilarious! Abbie asks if anyone has installed one of these mini gear drive starters, --and if so where did they install the aux. solenoid. He did not ask where to get one (--he already has made the purchase ;)) nor did he ask if he should convert to 12 volts as he has already done this.

If you know the vehicle he is working on, (--which I do because I have seen it on tour) it is ALREADY set-up with 12 volts due to them needing air conditioning several years ago. Since he is now wanting to convert the faulty starter to solenoid use instead of foot activation, ...and he is limited by his mechanical capabilities, it seems it is best to install this new style of starter. In addition, this smaller mini-starter will be handy for him to install himself due to limited space in the proximity of the starter because the A/C Dryer was installed in that area. So it really is of no benefit for him to reconsider converting his present starter to 12 volts as he already had that. Now that you know the entire scenario, I spoke with Mr. Prince and shared with him that he should not install an aux. solenoid, and how he could wire the starter solenoid with a hidden push-button switch.

Delrayhuh 12-15-2017 04:35 PM

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That's been the norm lately:rolleyes:

Y-Blockhead 12-15-2017 04:43 PM

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JBill 12-15-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Delrayhuh (Post 1566599)
That's been the norm lately :rolleyes:

So says a guy with ten posts?

abbie 12-15-2017 07:49 PM

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I do appreciate your call today and the information provided. you are spot on with the comments.
Thank you for perusing this site and sharing your experience.

Merry Christmas

BILL WILLIAMSON 12-16-2017 10:27 AM

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Some need to PRACTICE reading & comprehending the initial posters' QUESTIONS---

California Travieso 12-16-2017 01:10 PM

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I'm with Y-Block. If you want a quick answer call a mechanic or someone who knows your car.

Many of us old guys have a lot of time on our hands and we enjoy the discussion and repartee on this Forum. I don't post a lot but I do spend time every day reading and enjoying posts. I've learned a lot from all the comments from the Barners even when they stray from the topic. If the OP doesn't provide background on their car, people tend to give more involved answers.

David Serrano

hardtimes 12-16-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by California Travieso (Post 1566947)
I'm with Y-Block. If you want a quick answer call a mechanic or someone who knows your car.

Many of us old guys have a lot of time on our hands and we enjoy the discussion and repartee on this Forum. I don't post a lot but I do spend time every day reading and enjoying posts. I've learned a lot from all the comments from the Barners even when they stray from the topic. If the OP doesn't provide background on their car, people tend to give more involved answers.

David Serrano

Hey David,
Well said. I feel fortunate, at this stage, just to be able to read :) !

California Travieso 12-16-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hardtimes (Post 1566955)
Hey David,
Well said. I feel fortunate, at this stage, just to be able to read :) !

Hardtimes,

My problem is hearing, so it's hard to follow a conversation. I got a lot of time to read.

David Serrano

CarlG 12-16-2017 02:11 PM

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I have the gear reduction starter that Snyder’s sells. It has a built in solenoid. I also have a key start ignition switch. All of which works beautifully. Obviously I am not concerned with originality but rather functionality.

abbie 12-16-2017 05:37 PM

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Thank you for replying. Where did you obtain the switch you use with the mini-starter??

lee in bend 02-16-2018 06:27 PM

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I am installing a Snyder's gear reduction starter in my rebuild. I had 3 "modern" solenoids explode on my starter that was converted to 12V. Boy what a pain in the rear to get those things out. tired of doing the same thing over and over. Sure they aren't stock looking but others in the local club have had excellent experience with them. I want to make this car my "touring car" and will keep the others stock.


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